Caproni Ca.190 and Ca.191

[Maveric]

In an old magazin I have found little informations about this two Caproni civil projects after WWII, but without drawings. If anybody has pics or drawings please post it.

Thanks Maveric

 

[Apophenia]

Flight 20 Nov 1947 mentions the Ca.191 but no images (just photos of the prototype MB308 and the S.1001 Grifo).

"Ca.191 - 18-seat twin-engined high-wing monoplane with retractable nosewheel undercarriage and two Isotta Fraschini Delta engines of 800 h.p. each. All-up weight, 19,360 lb; cruising speed, 192 m.p.h."

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1947/1947%20-%202023.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1947/1947%20-%202024.html

There were no other details. Maveric, what did your old magazine have to say about these types?

 

[Apophenia]

Maveric,

This might also be of interest: http://cgi.ebay.it/LALA-AVIAZIONE-AERAUTO-PL3C-MILANO-CAPRONI-MC202-1947_W0QQitemZ200254945917QQihZ010QQcategoryZ4718QQcmdZViewItem

L'ALA Numero 14 Anno III (1 Aug 1947), 24 pages. Contents included the aircraft of AEREA TESEO S.A., Caproni Ca.193, Ca.191, and the F.M.1 Passero motorglider.

 

[Skybolt]

On both now the standard is Giorgio Apostolo "Gli ultimi di Taliedo" Aerofan n.100.

 

[Maveric]

Hi Apophenia,

the source "Der Flieger" (1950)!

 

[hesham]

Hi,


who can make a larger and clearer copy of this photo,which originally sent by my dear Apophenia.

 

[Jemiba]

Someone with access to a well-assorted Italian library, I would think. But in the international
distant loan system, I couldn't find this mag.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dears,


and Flightglobal's archive is not working,why ?.

 

[hesham]

My dear Apophenia,


the Flightglobal is working now,but just Info about Ca.191 and Ca.193,I want a clearer drawings
for them.

 

[Nico]

Hi friends,
about the postwar Caproni designs, I can enclose two pictures of two of the latest projects of Eng. Amilcare Porro for the Caproni brand.
One is the alleged prototype of the Ca.191 during construction in the Milano-Taliedo plant (close to the Linate Airport) but IMO is only a partial wooden mock-up. The second one is the prototype of the Ca.193 as appeared circa 1972 at the Vizzola Ticino plant, more or less where today is the Volandia theme park, in the area of Malpensa International Airport. The aircraft now is at the Trento museum
Nico

 

[hesham]

Excellent my dear Nico,


thank you very much.

 

[hesham]

From; La Caproni di Taliedo_ Storia d - Claudio De Biaggi


A clearer view to Ca.193.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala/L'Ala%201947%2008.pdf

 

[hesham]

The Ca.191;

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Alata/Alata%201949%2005.pdf

 

[Maveric]

do you mean Ca.193?

 

[boxkite]

Caproni Ca.191 and Ca.191A

SOURCE: Gente dell'aria volume 7 (page 194/195)

 

[hesham]

Nice find my dear Boxkite.

 

[boxkite]

Same book, Ca.191 inside (page 196).

 

[hesham]

Same book, Ca.191 inside (page 196).

Amazing cutaway.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 3/1948,

here is all Info about Ca.193.

 

[hesham]

And from Ailes 2/1949.