Aviation, Imagination of the Future from the Past

[southwestforests]

Okay, disbelief duly suspended for ~90 mins

That fits the theme - I'd have to suspend belief in lots of things, such as physics, before I'd use that gizmo!

 

[Hood]

Another interesting find on Project Gutenberg, a 1928 novel dealing with long-distance with an interesting monoplane design, profusely illustrated too!

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/70513/pg70513-images.html

 

[southwestforests]

a 1928 novel dealing with long-distance with an interesting monoplane design

Speaking of that monoplane, I really, Really, REALLY, have to wonder about that one bit in the following,
"
As they stood on the little platform in the bright sun, to the tune of clicking movie cameras, the bottle of champagne was brought down smartly on the metal propeller, and the young girl said, in a clear voice:

“I christen thee ‘Dauntless’, and wish thee all the luck in the world for thy big adventure.”
"

 

[hesham]

From Western Aerospace 1948.

 

[archipeppe]

From Western Aerospace 1948.

This stuff looks really alike the Douglas D-558 phase II.

 

[Justo Miranda]

From Western Aerospace 1948.

Hi

 

[Charlesferdinand]

a 1928 novel dealing with long-distance with an interesting monoplane design

Speaking of that monoplane, I really, Really, REALLY, have to wonder about that one bit in the following,
"
As they stood on the little platform in the bright sun, to the tune of clicking movie cameras, the bottle of champagne was brought down smartly on the metal propeller, and the young girl said, in a clear voice:

“I christen thee ‘Dauntless’, and wish thee all the luck in the world for thy big adventure.”
"

They don't make propellers like they used to.

The book is quite the find, though

 

[Nik]

I'd hope it was a reporting error, such she whacked the steel hub-cap, which was discreetly but promptly replaced with lightweight 'flying' version...

 

[southwestforests]

I'd hope it was a reporting error, such she whacked the steel hub-cap, which was discreetly but promptly replaced with lightweight 'flying' version...

Thing with that is it would also require the real life artist to have made same error as the fictional reporter,
Note illustration on page 52:

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/70513/images/i051.jpg

 

[robunos]

US3031095A - Bottle for christening ships - Google Patents

cheers,
Robin.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Popular Science

Popular Science gives our readers the information and tools to improve their technology and their world. The core belief that Popular Science and our readers share: The future is going to be better, and science and technology are the driving forces that will help make it better.

books.google.com.eg

 

[moin1900]

PAN AM
-VTOL
-SST
-HST
-SATURN
-LUNAR LANDER
-SPACECRAFT

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[hesham]

I spoke about them before.

 

[martinbayer]

PAN AM
-VTOL
-SST
-HST
-SATURN
-LUNAR LANDER
-SPACECRAFT

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Orion III is missing though ...

 

[hesham]

Strange idea.

 

[southwestforests]

Strange idea.

Eh, not any stranger than a number of hypothetical rocket illustrations of the 1930s and 40s.

I don't know enough about the physics and math involved to understand how the figure of 600 pounds thrust added because of that 30 degree bend elbow in the jetpipes as mentioned in second paragraph of right column in the PDF were derived.

 

[hesham]

From this book.

 

[flateric]

Sep. 09, 1958 - The Airliner of The Future. Studies made by Bristol Aero-Engines Ltd have shown that, using a combination of ramjets and turbojets, an airliner could be designed capable of carrying 150 passengers from London to New York in two hours, at a speed of 2, 000 mph at a cost per passenger comparable to that of the Britannia. Photo Shows:- An artist impression of a turbo-ramjet-powered supersonic airliner. (Credit Image: Keystone Pictures USA/ZUMAPRESS)

 

[flateric]

A Three-Stage Rocket Ship​

(Original Caption) The rage for the artificial satellite and space flight is on. Even now, American scientists are working with prototypes of devices which will finally overcome gravity - the greatest barrier of them all. As early as 1929, Austrian scientist Hermann Oberth conceived the idea of a "step" or multi-stage rocket. With current rockets (like the V-2 and the Viking), the rocket engine must push the entire ship, including the empty fuel tanks. The "step" rocket principle states that you must throw away what you no longer need, in this case, the empty fuel tanks. Government engineers offer a new, economical approach to this theory. Instead of throwing the parts away as their usefulness is exhausted, each sections should be piloted and landed safely after giving "boost" to the man ship. Thus the expensive rocket components would be saved from destruction and used in other flights.

 

[martinbayer]

A Three-Stage Rocket Ship​

(Original Caption) The rage for the artificial satellite and space flight is on. Even now, American scientists are working with prototypes of devices which will finally overcome gravity - the greatest barrier of them all. As early as 1929, Austrian scientist Hermann Oberth conceived the idea of a "step" or multi-stage rocket. With current rockets (like the V-2 and the Viking), the rocket engine must push the entire ship, including the empty fuel tanks. The "step" rocket principle states that you must throw away what you no longer need, in this case, the empty fuel tanks. Government engineers offer a new, economical approach to this theory. Instead of throwing the parts away as their usefulness is exhausted, each sections should be piloted and landed safely after giving "boost" to the man ship. Thus the expensive rocket components would be saved from destruction and used in other flights.

Three stages actually sounds just about realistic for an orbital RLV design around that vintage. Thanks to the progress of science and technology, the lone Elon has brought that down to two, god bless his little twisted heart. We'll take it from there on to the next frontier - SSTO RLV, anyone?

 

[hesham]

A Three-Stage Rocket Ship​

(Original Caption) The rage for the artificial satellite and space flight is on. Even now, American scientists are working with prototypes of devices which will finally overcome gravity - the greatest barrier of them all. As early as 1929, Austrian scientist Hermann Oberth conceived the idea of a "step" or multi-stage rocket. With current rockets (like the V-2 and the Viking), the rocket engine must push the entire ship, including the empty fuel tanks. The "step" rocket principle states that you must throw away what you no longer need, in this case, the empty fuel tanks. Government engineers offer a new, economical approach to this theory. Instead of throwing the parts away as their usefulness is exhausted, each sections should be piloted and landed safely after giving "boost" to the man ship. Thus the expensive rocket components would be saved from destruction and used in other flights.

Nice find my dear Flatric,

looks like Goodyear design.

 

[publiusr]

We'll take it from there on to the next frontier - SSTO RLV, anyone?

That might take another materials revolution....

 

[Deltafan]

Hi everybody,

I currently have a discussion on a French comic book forum where there is talk of a plane present in a comic book on the adventures of American pilot Johnny Hazard. It would be a fictional Japanese hunter who would have appeared in one of these adventures.

While doing research on Google Images, I ended up finding this cover, which depicts an aircraft that could be this fighter.
Can anyone confirm that it is Japanese and if so, would it be possible to have pictures showing it in full?

https://www.budsartbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/product_j_h_jhsh-johnny-hazard-sundays-1944-1947_2.jpg

 

[F.L.]

While doing research on Google Images, I ended up finding this cover, which depicts an aircraft that could be this fighter.
Can anyone confirm that it is Japanese and if so, would it be possible to have pictures showing it in full?

Personally, I don't know of anything quite like it. This aircraft seems fictitious to me.

 

[Deltafan]

Personally, I don't know of anything quite like it. This aircraft seems fictitious to me.

Yes, it is fictitious. But I would like to have its form as a whole.

 

[F.L.]

Yes, it is fictitious. But I would like to have its form as a whole.

Peharps a bit the Kyushu J7W Shinden.

 

[Deltafan]

Peharps a bit the Kyushu J7W Shinden.

I was rather thinking of a mixture of Mitsubishi J8M with one or more other aircraft.

 

[Arjen]

Looks like a single-seat flying boat to me.

 

[Deltafan]

Looks like a single-seat flying boat to me.

Maybe too (pusher engine above the fuselage and what appears to be a wheelhouse). At this point it's hard to say.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Republic RC-3 Seabee Design Philosophy

 

[Justo Miranda]

Hi

 

[Justo Miranda]

Post-2

 

[Justo Miranda]

post-3

 

[Justo Miranda]

post-4

 

[hesham]

From, Air Force Magazine 1948.

 

[hesham]

From, Air Force Magazine 1948.

From the same source,

I can't sleep without sharing these beauty designs,happy dreams.

 

[hesham]

From, Air Force Magazine 1948.

 

[royabulgaf]

Wasn 't the future great?

 

[moin1900]

BRITISH AIRWAYS SPACE SHUTTLE

https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroFuturism/comments/15amdbr

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[TsrJoe]

FANTASY British Airways orbiter ... http://www.action-transfers.com/html/promotional/other9bea.shtml