Z-plane flying model

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Hi Z-plane flying model.
http://www.geocities.jp/gallerytoki/Fugaku/index.htm
You will see flying video movie of this model clicking "ビデオ映像" then "TVニュース"of this site.
You will see design drawings of this model clicking "設計図" of this site.
 

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Z-plane transport version flying model. Under construction now.(Wing span:4.1m)

Trans port version's specification
Length;33.5m, Wing span;50m, Passengers;100(4×25)
 

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Hi 3-side view and other view of Z-plane.
I feel dihedral is little small and main landing gears are little strange. It's difficult to accommodate.
 

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Thanks for your great contributions Blackkite, I love that aircraft!
 

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Hi blackkite san these are very good photos and pics of the Fugaku!
Isay again the USA has all the luck of the world that japan hasnt the time to develop this awsome bomber further,and that the japanese has not the bomb in time.
Otherwhise they were facing a atomic respomse on maybe San Francisco and Los Angeles for bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki
best regards T-50
 

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Many thanks Antonio-san and T50-san. ;)
 

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Thanks my dear gerhard!
 

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http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11811.0;attach=123549

This cannot be right; bomb sights usually demanded a flat window.
 

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You are sharp eyed,too. B)

Attached picture is Fugaku, not Z-plane. The friendship flight to New York city and DC. ;D
Sorry off topic.(Source: internet site)
 

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Hi Z-plane transport version picture. Enjoy.
Source: Internet site.
 

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Beatiful !
Z-Plane or better G10N1 Fugaku et similars !
Really nice civil variant : but i don't know if that's a speculation or really inspired by projects for also a civil variant !
 

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Hi. Good question!!
The team which constructing this model got the real Chikuhei's blue prints of this transport version that discovered by Mr.Shoda(Shoda enterprise) in 2008. Chikuhei and the Fugaku project team members had the dream to travel around the world by this transport after the war.
 

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Guys, but biderive Fugaku was an idea of Kawanishi , Nakajima or Mitsubishi ?
???
 

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I have an impression that original Z-plane project was devoloped by core of G5N ! :eek:
 

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Hi! May be so.G5N was designed based on DC-4E.
It's true that Japanese aviation had no experience to design such a big aircraft at the day.
Source: internet site.
 

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Airman,

For more info please see the Fugaku thread in the
Theroretical and Speculative designs chapter.
 

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Hi! G5N1 Shinzan. Sorry off topic.
Because of it's poor maneuverability, luck of electric equipment reliability, Mamori engine's under power and vibration, 20% weight over, IJN called this plane as a "fool bird;馬鹿鳥(baka dori)". ;D
Specifications (G5N1)
General characteristics
Crew: 7-10
Length: 31.02 m (101 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 42.12 m (138 ft 2 in)
Height: 8.4 m (27 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 201.8 m² (2,171.37 ft²)
Empty weight: 20,100 kg (44,300 lb)
Loaded weight: 28,150 kg (62,060 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 32,000 kg (70,528 lb)
Powerplant: 4× Nakajima NK7A "Mamoru-11" 14-cylinder air-cooled radial four-blade constant-speed, 1395 kW (1870 hp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 420 km/h (227 kn, 261 mph)
Cruise speed: 370 km/h (200 kn, 230 mph)
Range: 4,260 km (2,302 nmi, 2,648 mi)
Service ceiling: 7,450 m (24,442 ft)
Armament
Guns
2× 20 mm Type 99 cannons
4× 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Type 97 machine guns
Ordinance
2,000-4,000 kg (4,408-8,816 lb) bombs
 

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Hi! From JOMO news paper.
 

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By any chance was coastal mine-laying one of the intended roles for the Shinzan? And was the 4,408-8,816 lb bomb-load projected or realised?
 

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Grey Havoc said:
By any chance was coastal mine-laying one of the intended roles for the Shinzan? And was the 4,408-8,816 lb bomb-load projected or realised?
Hi I can't find any Shinzan's coastal mine-laying role by Japanese internet site. Shinzan was used as a torpedo carrier to the southern front. It could carry two 95- shiki submarine use torpedos(3,330kg total). 93-shiki torpedo was more heavy.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%85%B8%E7%B4%A0%E9%AD%9A%E9%9B%B7
http://www52.tok2.com/home/BByamato/heisou.html
魚雷 means torpedo.水上艦艇用 means for ships, 航空機用 means for aircrafts, 潜水艦用 means for submarines.
 

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"It could carry two torpedo(3,330kg total)"

Then one torpedo would have had a weight of 1665 kg, quite heavy for an aerial
torpedo, i think. Was a special type envisaged for the Shinzan ?
 

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Hi! You are right. I am not sure which type torpedo Shinzan carried to the southern front. It might be aircraft use torpedo.
 

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Japanese aerial torpedoes were 800 KG (@1700 lbs) if I remember correctly.
 

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The answer probably is, that, as blackkite wrote, the 95- shiki torpedo was
a type principally used by submarines. But such a torpedo surely cannot just
be used as an aerial torpedo with intensive modifications. Maybe the Shinzan
was intended just for torpedo transport and not torpedo attack ?
 

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Hi! Of course torpedo transport role only. It's impossible for low performance Shinzan to attack ships by torpedo. ;D
I think submarine torpedo transport by Shinzan was good idea,too. Because it's not necessary for submarine to return Japan to charge torpedo.
It's safer and faster than the surface transport.The weight of Submarine torpedo was 1.7ton.
 

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Ok, this misunderstanding is cleared, my fault, sorry .
But wouldn't a flying boat have been a better transport then ?
This way of torpedo transport would have needed quite good
infrastructures, I think.

BTW, mass drops of long range torpedos against enemy fleets
(probably at night) was considered a viable tactic by some air arms,
although never used in anger, AFAIK.
 

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Did you tried to do a Turbojet powered variant?
 

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Hi! I believe there are no evidence for existence of jet powered version of this transport.
 

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I once read somewhere a G10N2 Fugaku-Kai, a Turbojet powered Fugaku, but I don't know if it really existed as a proposal or not.
 

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Hi! Fugaku(富嶽) transport version (or Z-plane transport version) 1/12 scale RC model(Span:4.12m, Length:2.8m) succeeded meiden flight in 2011/10/16 at Ohta(太田) city(市) Gunma prefecture(群馬県) near Tokyo(東京).
This model's and operator's level are very high. ;D

She will make demo flight at "2011 AERONAUTIC PAGENT(第25回RC航空ページェント)" in 2011/11/3 at Ohta city,Ojima(尾島) RC skyport.

Source:Japanese news papers and internet site.
 

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Was the commercial transport version of the Fugaku a real project? It is truly a beautiful design!
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
Was the commercial transport version of the Fugaku a real project? It is truly a beautiful design!

Thanks!
Of course it was a real project. Recently Mr.Shoda, one of the leader of this flying model construction team, discovered the Nakajima's factory drawing of this transport version which Chikuhei Nakajima ordered Nakajima's engineers to design. Perhaps you will see the drawings of this transport version near future.
The nose and wing tip shape of this aircraft were similar to Lockheed Connie. The vertical stabilizer shape was similar to Electra.
 

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Hi! Past Z-plane flight demonstration.
 

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Hi Blackkite san I didnt know that the civil version was a real development! Its realy a marvelous plane!A pitty that this design also didnt make it to reality
best regards
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