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Hi,

A Northrop fan lift VTOL aircraft project from 1961.
 

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I know we spoke about that aircraft before,but I don't remember it.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=iRQXAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#PPA4,M1
 

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This is the design usually refered to as the "Switchblade", which directly inspired the fictitious F/A-38 Talon from the movie "Stealth", for which Northrop was a consultant.
 

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http://www.google.com/patents?id=AW8cAAAAEBAJ

http://www.google.com/patents?id=DJ0mAAAAEBAJ
 

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oh, my! MOAR, MOAR!
 

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Just as a matter of interest, does Allen A Arata actually exist?
If you google his name the only results are patents.


For a start the letters AAA. Not very imaginative.
When you look up Arata in the dictionary there are no results, but Arat comes up with:
Abbreviations & Acronyms
ARAT
atmospheric research and remote sensing plane
Do I smell a rat? :)
 

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kendo1 said:
Just as a matter of interest, does Allen A Arata actually exist?
If you google his name the only results are patents.


For a start the letters AAA. Not very imaginative.
When you look up Arata in the dictionary there are no results, but Arat comes up with:
Abbreviations & Acronyms
ARAT
atmospheric research and remote sensing plane
Do I smell a rat? :)


There is no need to make one's mind up about all this. This is an interesting question-, and I'll try to expand because a long tile ago, I was also intrigued by Arata and his weirdy hypersonic propulsion-related patent.


Does this guy exist? Before all, you should try browsing white pages, where you should either be able to grab his private phone number or his private address, so that you can write him a letter in case his phone is not publicly available. This is enough to ask him your shakespearian question, i.e. "are you or are you not ?".


I googled his name and found out stuff beyond patents, such as Allen Alexander Arata; a Discovery article (issued in 2001) quoting his work. Also, as you know, it is always possible to track down political donations : on 02/06/06, Allen Arata donated $ 500 to Paul McCloskey running for congress (house, primary). So this guy seems to exist.


That he either does not want to communicate on his work or cannot do it in the open world, is quite another issue. It might also be a matter of generation or more likely, hierarchy if he works within a team being not in a position of leader.


In the following document:




http://www.engineerscouncil.org/Banquet/PastBanquets/program2002.pdf



You would lean that he was also part of the X-47A program managed by DG Dave Mazur...


So this guy seems to be an aerospace engineer with some innovative ideas, and there is no need to get conspiracy-minded. He never lectured at AIAA conference - checked this out too - and this is why I believed he was not a "team leader", i.e. the kind of guy allowed to going public at the company's expenses (he might attend conference but not lecture, which is another issue)

Lastly, why would you find so little information about him? If you are a good engineer working for a big company, where your daily work leads you to solve rather mundane problems, there is no need to go public about it. Whether it is black aircraft or white aircraft. Aircraft are complex enough to deserve fixing issues neatly with professionalism and there is no need to make headline news with that. Many engineers never publish anything beyond internal reports. Many of them have passion outside their work (well, this guy seems to have none, I agree this is a bit strange, but not unusual: people in their 60s don't post their pet work on facebook). Back to basics: good engineers working on practical issues occasionally generate good ideas which are occasionally worth being patented after screening by the company's IP and security departments. I see many patents from various fields associated to the name of Arata, but none with the flavor of deep expertise. For instance, while being not an acknowledged expert in the field of hypersonic propulsion, he came up with ideas in this field. It is just as if this engineer had been part of teams where various advanced concepts were explored, and also produced some ideas on his own that his employer accepted to patent. This process is also part of human relation management. Arata is real and likely a very good engineer running for his company with a private life. An hyper-ultra-normal guy.
 

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I spoke with some of the Northrop engineers working on this some time around '89, or '91 at the Dayton airshow, when they still had the industrial show there (Do they still do that?). Anyway, I remember them also telling me the design generated excellent pitch authority and how excited they were about this design. If you look at the MRF thread here at secret projects, you will see NG also came up with a concept for retrofitting F-16s with this wing. It's in one of those basic top view drawings, though I would love to see a detailed 3 view of it. Of course, I've always liked the design in the patent as well, and would love to see some good 3 views of it as well.
 

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Here is a list of patents related to aircraft designs from Northrop Aircraft between 1946 and 1960. Many flying wings of very similar characteristics, hard to tell them apart!


APPROVED
APPLICANTSNUMBERTITLETYPE REPRESENTED
1941
John K. Northrop 127 185AirplaneNorthrop N-1M Jeep
1946
John K. Northrop 143 847Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 848AirplaneNorthrop N-9M
1946
John K. Northrop 143 849Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 850Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 851Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 852Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 853Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 854Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 855Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 856Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 857Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 858Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 859Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 860AirplaneNorthrop N-1M Jeep
1946
John K. Northrop 143 861Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 862Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 863Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 864AirplaneNorthrop N-2B Black Bullet (P-56 mod.)
1946
John K. Northrop 143 865Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 866AirplaneNorthrop N-2B Black Bullet (P-56)
1946
John K. Northrop 143 867Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 868Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 869Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 870Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 871Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 872Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 873Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop 143 874Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop, Walter J. Cerny, Fred J. Baum, Albert M. Schwartz144 211AirplaneNorthrop N-8 Black Widow (P-61)
1946
John K. Northrop 2 406 506All-Wing Airplane
1946
John K. Northrop, William R. Sears2 412 646Tailless AircraftNorthrop N-9 Flying Wing (B-35)
1946
John K. Northrop, William R. Sears2 412 647AircraftNorthrop N-9 Flying Wing (B-35)
1947
William R. Sears 2 416 958Tailless Airplane
1948
John K. Northrop, Irving L. Ashkenas149 666All-Wing AirplaneNorthrop N-40 Flying Wing (B-49)
1950
Meyer Fishbein 2 526 941Gas Turbine System for Aircraft Propulsion
1953
John K. Northrop, Meyer Fishbein, Donald B. Smith2 638 291All-Wing Cargo Pack
1953
John K. Northrop, Walter J. Cerny2 650 780All-Wing Aircraft
1955
John J. Pfarr, William Park Stevens, Jr., Norman B. Christensen174 466AircraftNorthrop N-134 Snark (M-62)
1957
Welko E. Gasich, Edgar Schmued180 297AirplaneNorthrop N-102 Fang
1958
Leon F. Begin, Jr., Welko E. Gasich, George L. Gluyas, Robert B. Katkov, Arthur M. Ogness183 675AirplaneNorthrop N-156T Talon (T-38)
1960
Welko E. Gasich, George L. Gluyas, Arthur M. Ogness, Leon F. Begin, Jr.187 405AirplaneNorthrop N-156F Freedom Fighter (F-5)
 

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Hi,

a patent for Northrop tailless transport/cargo aircraft of 1950.

Le Fana 485
 

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Hi, hesham all-wing aircraft patent Cerny Walter J, Northrop John K more info here http://www.google.com/patents/US2650780
 

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Vladimir said:
Hi, hesham all-wing aircraft patent Cerny Walter J, Northrop John K more info here http://www.google.com/patents/US2650780

Thank you Vladimir.
 

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