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At least looks very VFX-sky
 

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flateric said:
At least looks very VFX-sky

Given the seriously badass nature of the engine, the study this was related to might not have been a fighter study, but an engine study. The exhaust setup looks a lot like a Marquardt supercharged ejector ramjet (SERJ); a number of notional ideas were tossed around for aircraft powered by these engines, this might be one.
 

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Bird I must say looks very un-proportional...and that bloody engine nozzle as well...
 

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Orionblamblam said:
flateric said:
At least looks very VFX-sky

Given the seriously badass nature of the engine, the study this was related to might not have been a fighter study, but an engine study. The exhaust setup looks a lot like a Marquardt supercharged ejector ramjet (SERJ); a number of notional ideas were tossed around for aircraft powered by these engines, this might be one.
With a variable ejector nozzle?
 

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I have the similar picture labeled as McDonnell Douglas VFX proposal, but I am not 100% sure about that.
 

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That thing makes me think of a scaled-down, single seat, single (big) engine, F-111. Or an 'Americanized' MiG-23!
 

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Matej said:
I have the similar picture labeled as McDonnell Douglas VFX proposal, but I am not 100% sure about that.

From a cursory look all the details seem to match, cockpit style, wing/inlet relationship, wing angle + trailing edge, tail surfaces...if it isn't the McDD VFX proposal it's a clone.

BTW - from the extreme sweep - it should be a VG wing - but I can't see the wing gloves or pivot point...artistic licence?

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starviking said:
BTW - from the extreme sweep - it should be a VG wing - but I can't see the wing gloves or pivot point...artistic licence?

Probably yes, but at least I can see a low visible beginning of the wing. I highlighted it with red colour.
 

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For me they are the same aircrafts. So, thanks God, another good artist's rendering of MacAir VFX found.
 

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To clear the thing - I am absolutely sure that on both pictures is the same plane, but I am not so sure, if it is really MDD and if it is really VFX proposal.
 

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Sorry for being so late... but the art depicts a single seat airplane, so not VFX. As for the similarity with the TFX, my gut feeling is that this is the McAir submission to the VAX competiton: both Boeing and GD are known to have submitted scaled down, single seat, single engine version of thei TFX submission.
 

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In "US Jet fighters since 1945" by Robert F.Dorr
Blandford Press -London- 1988

the black and white illustration is captioned as the
McDonnell entry in the US Navy VFX competition...
 

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Skybolt said:
Yep, Paul, but looking at the 3-view, either the painter had sight problems or the author is wrong .. ::)

3-view? What 3-view?
 

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There's a 3 view of McDonnell-Douglas' VFX submission - its the one with the canards and VG wings.

I think this is a different project entirely.
 

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overscan said:
There's a 3 view of McDonnell-Douglas' VFX submission - its the one with the canards and VG wings.

I think this is a different project entirely.

I would agree.

I don't even think that the drawings in question depict a TF-30 or F401 powered project, but something built around an even larger diameter turbofan of some sort?

Of course, the proportions might just be off.
 

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If you scale down a TFX by 50 % (actually less, I'd say 30 per cent) probably everything will look larger .. ;D
 

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And I think that 1974 is the date of publication/release... the VAX was from 1963.
 

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I think artist wasnt' an idiot - just look at the glowing nozzle of the thing. Turboramjet?
 

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