Turkey's new third generation Main Battle Tank: The Altay

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Altay is the third generation+ main battle tank (MBT) of the Republic of Turkey and is being indigenously developed under the Milli Tank Üretim Projesi ALTAY (MITÜP ALTAY) programme (Altay National Tank Project). Altay will be the first national MBT developed for the Turkish Land Forces Command (TLFC).

The Turkish National Main Battle Tank Project began in 2005. In September 2010 the conceptual design phase of Altay was completed. The tank is currently in the detailed design phase which is planned to take about 30 months. The first prototype is expected to be ready by 2015.

Turkey intends to build 250 MITÜP Altay MBTs initially, and ultimately produce 1,000 new tanks in four separate lots of 250 units. Altay will incorporate the most modern features of a tank. The Turkish MBT will have a crew of four – driver, gunner, loader and the commander.

Development
The Undersecreteriat for Defense Industries (SSM) embarked on the National Tank project to improve the technical capabilities of Turkish defence and to increase the domestic contribution towards national defence.

The tank is named after the Army General Fahrettin Altay, who commanded the V Cavalry Corps during the Turkish War of Independence. Development of the Altay tank will be completed in three phases.

The Defence Industrial Executive Committee (SSIK), the Turkey's defence industrial procurement decision-making body, selected the contractor Otokar in March 2007, through a competition.

The $500m contract includes design, development and integration of Altay and qualification of the tank through prototypes and testing.

Work on the Altay project began in August 2008 at the Otokar factory and is projected for completion in 2016. Otokar will develop four prototypes for testing. Altay will use the technology systems developed for the South Korean K2 MBT by Hyundai Rotem. Serial production will begin after successful testing of the prototypes. Turkey will own the design and intellectual property rights.
Design and features

A 3D image of Altay was revealed to the public in August 2010.

The tank will have a conventional layout. The power pack will be in the rear, driver seating in the front and fighting compartment in the middle. The loader will be on the left side of the turret, while the commander will sit on the right side of the turret. The gunner will sit on the same side as the commander but in a more forward and lower position.

Altay will have the stronger chassis characteristics of the K2 Black Panther MBT. It will have a re-designed Turkish turret and heavier armour than the K2. It will also have seven tracked wheels and a longer hull. A decision on the suspension system and other systems has yet to be finalised.

Fire control
The tank will use an advanced computerised Volkan-III modular (or National Cannon Fire Control System For Naval Platforms (TAKS)) fire-control system (FCS). It is being developed by Aselsan, which has partnered with STM, the software division of SSM, for developing the command, control and information systems.

Armament
Altay will be equipped with a 120mm L/55 smoothbore gun. It will be fitted with a muzzle reference system, a thermal sleeve and fume extractor. The ammunition will be stowed in the turret bustle with blow out panels on the roof. The tank will also have a 7.62mm machine gun mounted in coaxial to the right of the main armament. A 12.7mm heavy machine gun will be mounted on the right of the turret for commander operation.

Self-protection
The front side of the tank will have special modular reactive composite armour protection. The tank will be designed to resist chemical, biological and radiological (CBR) attacks.

Both the gunner and the commander will be provided with stabilised day/thermal sights. They are expected to be incorporated with a laser range-finder having hunter-killer capability.

Propulsion
The first two batches of Altay tanks will be powered by MTU Friedrichshafen 1,500hp (1,100kW) diesel engines. The engine will be coupled to a Renk transmission. An indigenous 1,800hp (1,300kW) engine is currently under development in Turkey and will be used in the last two batches of the tank. The tank will have a maximum speed of 70km/h and manoeuvrability at depths of 4.1m in water.
Contractors

Koç Group company Otokar is the main contractor for the Altay MBT development programme. The technology systems transfer licensing will be provided by Hyundai Rotem, which will also offer technical support and assistance in the tank development.
Aselsan will be responsible for the sub-systems and fire control system. The state-owned ammunition producer Makine ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE) will produce the main gun system, while Roketsan will develop and produce the armour package. The subcontractors will be responsible for integration of the respective equipment in the tank in cooperation with Otokar.

Reproduced from http://www.army-technology.com/projects/altaymainbattletank/

Key Data:

Developers:
Primary developer Otokar of Koc Holding, Turkey
Technology Assistance partner: Hyundai Rotem of South Korea (Technology assistance partner for Explosive Reactive Armour and design)
CrewFour (commander, gunner, loader, driver)
Development Stage
Detailed design phase
Prototype Ready: First prototype 2011, Final Prototype: 2015
Weight: 60t
Performance:

Maximum Speed: 70km/h
Submergence: 4.1m
Fire Control System: Volker-III FCS
Engines:
1500hp (I & II batch, MTU)
1800hp (III & IV batch, indigenously developed)

Armament:

Primary Armament
MKEK 120mm 55calibre smoothbore gun

Secondary Armament
1x Aselsan STAMP II stabilised turret control 12.7mm heavy machine gun

ArmourModular reactive composite Armour
 

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This is far from the truth. ASELSAN of Turkey has been developing MBT sub-systems for the past 30 years. It has extensive experience in Tank modernization, Optics development etc. MKEK of Turkey has also been developing turret technology for the past 35 years.

The below video shows Turkey's technological advancement in this area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4frziRdqN6o

Why would Germany allow Turkey to become a competitor for its MBT's?
 

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sealordlawrence said:
Evidently most of the technology for this comes from Germany.


Engine and gun, yes. Most of the technical assistance is coming from South Korea, however.
 

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overscan said:
sealordlawrence said:
Evidently most of the technology for this comes from Germany.


Engine and gun, yes. Most of the technical assistance is coming from South Korea, however.

FIRE CONTROL SYSTEM: Developed, Designed and produced by ASELSAN of Turkey- See http://www.aselsan.com.tr/urun.asp?urun_id=79&lang=en

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TURRET: MKEK of Turkey- See http://www.mkek.gov.tr/english/foUretimYerleri.aspx?iKodUretimYeri=4

EXPLOSIVE REACTIVE ARMOUR: ROKETSAN of Turkey with technological assistance from Hyundai Rotem of South Korea

ENGINE: Indegenous development by OTOSAN, TÜMOSAN, HEMA and TÜLOMSAŞ of Turkey See http://www.skyturk.net/tanki-da-yerli-motoru-da/ (in Turkish)

DATA LINK: MILSOFT of Turkey See http://www.milsoft.com.tr/pdf/products/esc2s/gvls.pdf

It is clearly evident where the technology comes from.
 

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Turkey has been acquiring good capabilities in this area, partly via license-building and purchasing upgrade kits.

For instance, M60T Sabra II/III uses license-built 1000hp MTU 881 KA-501 engines, with Israeli M253 120mm L44 gun and add-on armour kits.

The Aselsan Leopard 2NG prototype was partly a testbed for Altay - it used German (IBD Deisenroth Engineering) AMAP modular armour and an earlier version of the indigenous FCS now proposed for Altay.

The logical next step is production of a new MBT.

Altay will have the stronger chassis characteristics of the K2 Black Panther MBT. It will have a re-designed Turkish turret and heavier armour than the K2. It will also have seven tracked wheels and a longer hull.

It appears the turret of Altay is mostly new and Turkish but the whole tank owes a lot to the South Korean K2 MBT, but with somewhat reduced complexity and cost - e.g. K2's Lerclerc derived autoloader is replaced with a manual loader.
 

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overscan said:
Turkey has been acquiring good capabilities in this area, partly via license-building and purchasing upgrade kits.

For instance, M60T Sabra II/III uses license-built 1000hp MTU 881 KA-501 engines, with Israeli M253 120mm L44 gun and add-on armour kits.

The Aselsan Leopard 2NG prototype was partly a testbed for Altay - it used German (IBD Deisenroth Engineering) AMAP modular armour and an earlier version of the indigenous FCS now proposed for Altay.

The logical next step is production of a new MBT.

Altay will have the stronger chassis characteristics of the K2 Black Panther MBT. It will have a re-designed Turkish turret and heavier armour than the K2. It will also have seven tracked wheels and a longer hull.

It appears the turret of Altay is mostly new and Turkish but the whole tank owes a lot to the South Korean K2 MBT, but with somewhat reduced complexity and cost - e.g. K2's Lerclerc derived autoloader is replaced with a manual loader.

Yes, I agree license-building and modernization programs have undeniably in affect led to the development of the Altay. But so too has the indigenous design and production of APC's.

Turkey's technological advancement has been piece meal but going in the right direction.

It must also be noted that the Turkish Army specifically did not want an auto loader and that the Altay was developed for Turkey's topography.

What is interesting to note is that the Turkish Army command is discussing the installation of low-altitude point air-defence systems such as the Zipkin and Atilgan PDMS onto the Altay. The Atilgan PDMS was recently exported to Holland.

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JFC Fuller said:
It is clearly evident where the technology comes from.
Yes it is, Germany and South Korea.
Is that a problem? Compare and contrast with India's similarly ambitious Arjun project, who do you think is approaching indigenous tank development more systematically and more methodically? Quite apart from the fact that, as Paul has mentioned, Turkish industry has been steadily acquiring relevant manufacturing, integration and development experience for quite some time already.
Turkish indigenous arms production has been developing quite well over the past 10 years - there is still a lot of foreign input and failures have occured, but the breadth and sometimes depth of their progress is rather commendable.
 

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It's been a while, Altay MBT is currently stalled because of the powerpack issues with Germany - South.Korea is being looked into for an alternative powerpack while indigenous powerpack is developed and tested. Hence, the time is being utilised to further improve upon the Altay - latest version of the Altay T1 MBT.

AKKOR Active Protection System
Laser Warning Receiver
360 degree situational awareness IR/CCD camera modules

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I thought South Korea is supposed to supply the engine to replace the german engine.
as for transmission.. i don't know if South Korea can help there.. because they also have problems with their own Black Panther transmission and may resort to using the RENK one (German).. something which Turkey probably wants to avoid.
 

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Turkey is cutting so many links to Europe that I seriously would not be surprised to see it exit NATO within a decade.
 

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Turkey is cutting so many links to Europe that I seriously would not be surprised to see it exit NATO within a decade.
honestly I don't see several NATO countries willing to give up NATO control of the Bosphorus
nor do I see Turkey wanting to leave NATO, which would be disadvantageous in its disputes with Greece.
 

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Turkey's Meteksan developing ATGM-KTB which is an electro-optical jammer that disrupts Semi-automatic command to line of sight (SACLOS) antitank guided missiles. Aswell as Tank protection, is proposed also for the protection of stationary outposts.

To begin live-fire testing soon, what is displayed next to the tank model is the actual size and working prototype.
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S. Korea step closer to providing engine for Turkey’s MBT Altay​

A declaration of intent regarding the supply of engines for Turkey’s domestic main battle tank (MBT) Altay was signed by officials from South Korea, which was previously reported as being a procurement option in the project.
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Let's hope the engine and transmission passes 10,000km tests...
 

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