Trieste LHD started sea trials

[archipeppe]

The Italian Trieste LHD has finally started its sea trials during last week, in the Gulf of La Spezia, here there are some nice photos by Italian Ares Difesa website:

Prime prove in mare per l'LHD Trieste [Foto]

La nuova LHD della Marina Militare, Nave Trieste, ha effettuato la sua prima uscita in mare davanti alle coste dello Spezzino. L’unità, varata a Castellammare di Stabia il 25 maggio 2019, ha raggiunto a gennaio 2020 il Cantiere del Muggiano per i lavori di allestimento. Al suo ingresso in...

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[Archibald]

So Garibaldi's days are counted from now ?

 

[archipeppe]

So Garibaldi's days are counted from now ?

In a certain sense yes.
But Garibaldi will no decomissioned and not scrapped, after its retreat it will turned into an offshore satellite launcher, since an agreement between Italian Space Agency and Italian Navy signed last year.

 

[Foo Fighter]

I wish her, and all who sail in her, the very best. A lucky ship hopefully.

 

[archipeppe]

Italian Navy has revealed the Trieste's motto: "Fulgere super mare" ("Shining over the sea").

 

[archipeppe]

So Garibaldi's days are counted from now ?

In a certain sense yes.
But Garibaldi will no decomissioned and not scrapped, after its retreat it will turned into an offshore satellite launcher, since an agreement between Italian Space Agency and Italian Navy signed last year.

Il Garibaldi lancerà in orbita satelliti

Doveva terminare la vita operativa nel 2022, dopo l’entrata in servizio della LHD Trieste, invece la portaelicotteri Garibaldi potrebbe essere riqualificata come piattaforma per lanciare in orbita satelliti. Il piano è stato confermati dallo stato maggiore della Marina. Si spiegherebbero così i...

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[Archibald]

Space carrier Garibaldi

Sounds like a sequel to Space battleship Yamato.

 

[uk 75]

Nice to see a Trieste at sea. I remember the notes in "Janes Fighting Ships" about the proposed sister ship to Vittorio Veneto in the 1960s.

 

[archipeppe]

Another brand new shot of the Trieste's flight deck and the two islands almost completed.

 

[timmymagic]

Think its a great ship. In an ideal world it would be the model for the eventual replacement of Albion and Bulwark. But does the aft islands flight control area look a little less 'pronounced' than it was originally speculated to be. Doesn't appear to have the vast fields of view of the entire flight deck that the QE's arrangement does, which seems genuinely useful.

 

[archipeppe]

But does the aft islands flight control area look a little less 'pronounced' than it was originally speculated to be.

Honestly I don't understand, both islands sorted out bigger than originally planned. You can compare the original Trieste design (smaller islands and no ski-jump) with the actual one (bigger islands and the ski-jump):

 

[archipeppe]

Anyway here there is a nice front view of the ship.

 

[uk 75]

Italy has always impressed me with its balanced modern Navy. Thanks for the photos.

 

[Archibald]

Anyway here there is a nice front view of the ship.

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Brute force, utilitarian, and impressive.

 

[helmutkohl]

But does the aft islands flight control area look a little less 'pronounced' than it was originally speculated to be.

Honestly I don't understand, both islands sorted out bigger than originally planned. You can compare the original Trieste design (smaller islands and no ski-jump) with the actual one (bigger islands and the ski-jump):

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I'll be honest..
the current twin islands look a bit disproportionate? being very tall relative to the length of the ship.
the older design looked a lot sleeker

i guess from a purely aesthetic point of view, Cavour is still my favorite "harrier" carrier.
but I hope trieste the best success in actual operations

 

[timmymagic]

Honestly I don't understand, both islands sorted out bigger than originally planned. You can compare the original Trieste design (smaller islands and no ski-jump) with the actual one (bigger islands and the ski-jump):

It's the size of the FLYCO that was talking about. Some of the original designs (like the Shipbucket drawings posted) had a FLYCO position that jutted out from the aft island and provided a view along the whole length of the flight deck.

 

[EwenS]

Honestly I don't understand, both islands sorted out bigger than originally planned. You can compare the original Trieste design (smaller islands and no ski-jump) with the actual one (bigger islands and the ski-jump):

It's the size of the FLYCO that was talking about. Some of the original designs (like the Shipbucket drawings posted) had a FLYCO position that jutted out from the aft island and provided a view along the whole length of the flight deck.

I think part of the problem is that that section of the island was still incomplete during the August trials. FLYCO was AIUI to be a two level structure. The upper level wraps around the aft end of the island but the lower level has windows on the port side of the island only.The windows in the upper level FLYCO still seem to be covered over, leaving only those in the lower level appearing in some photos. The upper level, with its surrounding catwalk seems to me to protrude further over the flight deck than the lower level. The other problem is the amount of shaping of the island under the catwalk, and above the FLYCO position seems to disguise just how far it does protrude.

Take a look at the shadow generated ahead of the position in this photo.

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[timmymagic]

That makes sense, looking at it from that angle the windows being covered still shows up really well.

Next question....do we know if the elevators fold up to close up the hangar bay openings or are there roller shutters in place?

 

[archipeppe]

Next question....do we know if the elevators fold up to close up the hangar bay openings or are there roller shutters in place?

Yes the both elevators can fold up. As you may see in the following picture taken just after its launch.

 

[Marcellogo]

Space carrier Garibaldi

Sounds like a sequel to Space battleship Yamato.

Garibaldi non muore mai/General Garibaldi will never die.

 

[archipeppe]

The Trieste LHD has finally received both Leonardo Kronos Power Shield radar and the Athena-Sadoc Mk4 Combat Management System.

And here it is, 40,000 tons of Italian Diplomacy:

 

[Arjen]

And here it is, 40,000 tons of Italian Diplomacy:

Nicely worded.

 

[uk 75]

The Postwar Italian Navy has built a succession of fine looking ships which no other European Navy has matched for variety and creativity

 

[timmymagic]

Personally think she's a fine looking ship...not going to happen, but it would be wonderful to replace Bulwark and Albion with 2 Trieste Class...

 

[Archibald]

The Trieste LHD has finally received both Leonardo Kronos Power Shield radar and the Athena-Sadoc Mk4 Combat Management System.

And here it is, 40,000 tons of Italian Diplomacy:

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What a brute shape, seen from that angle. It instantly sends a message, loud and clear "DON'T YOU MESS WITH ME"

 

[Hood]

I'm not seeing beauty in Trieste's lines, but effective design doesn't have to be beautiful.

 

[minklinh]

Honestly I don't understand, both islands sorted out bigger than originally planned. You can compare the original Trieste design (smaller islands and no ski-jump) with the actual one (bigger islands and the ski-jump):

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hi, can i get the source of the illustration

 

[BlackBat242]

hi, can i get the source of the illustration

Click on the image to enlarge it.
In the first image the name of the creator is in the upper right corner and the copyright info is along the bottom.

The second image was created by the same person.

It is likely from the Shipbucket website, which is a forum where people create their own images/drawings and share them.

 

[archipeppe]

The next 7th of December the Italian LHD Trieste will have its official ceremony of commissioning.
In this occasion the Trieste will replace the old Garibaldi recently decomissioned.
The Italian Navy has recently released some new photos of the completed and operational Trieste along with Cavour.
Enjoy them.

Source: https://svppbellum.blogspot.com/2024/11/lhd-trieste-nuovi-video.html

 

[Archibald]

Italia rules the waves ! Awesome ships. As for Garibaldi - still launching rockets in the future ?

Trieste and Cavour - are they 100 % different ships or loose sisterships ?

 

[VTOLicious]

Is there any UAS operated from Italian LHDs? I think the Navy conducted some trials with Leonardo Hero in recent years.

 

[archipeppe]

Garibaldi's future is currently uncertain. The rocket launcher hypotesis is definitely gone since Italian Space Agency decide to refubish the San Marco offshore launch base.

Some says that Garibaldi will became a museum ship in Genoa, some other that it will sell to a Foreign nation...

Cavour and Trieste share some common features but they definitely aren't sister ships. Cavour was conceived as full aircraft carrier while Trieste is a sort of hybrid ship: a real LHD coupled with full aircraft carrier capabilities.

 

[archipeppe]

Today the LPD Trieste officially entered in active service with Italian Navy, it received the Navy's flag from the hands of President Mattarella's daughter, Laura. The ceremony was held in Livorno at the presence of President of the Italian Republic Mattarella, Minister of Defense Crosetto, Chief of Staff of the Italian Navy Adm. Credendino and Fincantieri President and CEO.

Today marks the simbolic passage between ITS Garibaldi and LPD Trieste.

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[BlackBat242]

Sell Garibaldi to Spain to supplement Juan Carlos I.

 

[Archibald]

Principe de Asturias laugh from beyond the grave...