The very first Douglas "DC-9"... from 1947!

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Too early to be included in the "McDonnell Douglas little-known airliners" topic, here is the very first aircraft to carry the tentative commercial designation "DC-9". That was in 1947! It resembled a shortened, twin-engine DC-6, meant to succeed the DC-3, and fitting 28 passengers on 7 rows. Had it met with airline interest, the article claims the DC-9 could have entered service as soon as 1949.

The following diagrams were scanned and restored from the September 1947 issue of Interavia (French edition). I'm also including a very detailed specs sheet for the project, but translating it into English would be tedious... I guess the corresponding English language version of Interavia has it in English already.
 

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Hi All!

This is a Douglas Model TS-1119 AKA Model 1119.

Source: McDonnell Douglas DC-9 by Terry Waddington (Great Airliners series, Volume: Four)
 

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Thanks for the drawing. Any guesses as to which engine installation is depicted? Mine is it's the P & W, due to the long cowling. Anybody else?
 

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nugo said:
Hi All!

This is a Douglas Model TS-1119 AKA Model 1119.

Source: McDonnell Douglas DC-9 by Terry Waddington (Great Airliners series, Volume: Four)


Hi,


the Douglas Model 1119 or TS-1119.
 

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Greetings All -

Found in a recent donation in the April 1, 1948 issue of American Aviation.

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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Sherman Tank said:
Does this mean there's a 1940s DC-8 too?

Yes Sherman,

here it's;

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4716.0.html
 

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And even an early DC-7!

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,28561.0.html

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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Actually, the original DC-7 proposal was an airliner version of the C-74.
 

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This one predates even the commercial version of the C-74. It's likely, as ACResearcher pointed out, that DC meant Douglas Cargo like DB meant Douglas Bomber when it came to proposals and paper projects.

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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I'd understood that DC stood for Douglas Commercial, remember that the DC-2 and DC-3 weren't initially cargo aircraft.
 

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It does but the DC reference on the A-20 variant looks to be simply a in house name for the purposes of labeling it, not necessarily addressing a production product. It does fit in order though when you look at the DC-3, DC4(E) and DC-5 - just need to figure out what a DC-6 was in that sequence!

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 
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