T-X - A Future USAF Trainer

[totoro]

Even though Argentina was initially against Russian/Chinese gear, such moves might eventually push them towards russian/chinese stuff simply because there are no other routes.

 

[H_K]

And thus Argentine extremely antiquated Mirage IIIs still have no replacement..

If all they need is air policing the COAN’s Super Etendards could do the job just fine... but they’d need to fly first!

 

[Archibald]

You certainly have a point. Not sure about their air worthiness, as you said. Didn't France sold a whole lot of SEM to Argentina some years ago ?

 

[TomS]

You certainly have a point. Not sure about their air worthiness, as you said. Didn't France sold a whole lot of SEM to Argentina some years ago ?

Only if five is "a whole lot."

Five French refurbished Super Etendard fighter bombers en route to Argentina

Argentina will be receiving in a few weeks time five refurbished Dassault-Breguet Super Etendard (SEM) fighter bombers decommissioned from the French navy. The 13 million Euro purchase also includes a flight simulator, engines and spares and are currently sailing across the Atlantic en route to...

en.mercopress.com

 

[Archibald]

We should sell more of them then...

 

[TomcatViP]

Sell?!! At 12M€ the lot of 5 (fully operational), it's a gift
See the Great aircraft Bazaar thread

5 Super Etendard for 12.55M€ (5 Super Etendards, along with a simulator, eight spare engines, and a large batch of spares and tooling including barracuda jammer) - 3 directly put into service, 2 used as spare to regenerate airframe already in service

 

[TomS]

Sell?!! At 12M€ the lot of 5 (fully operational), it's a gift
See the Great aircraft Bazaar thread

The alternative is their scrap value (got to be less than €100,000 each). Plus of course the cost of ongoing training and upkeep, which is a steady income stream for French industry.

 

[TomcatViP]

As written extensively in the mentioned thread (sorry for that), 2 airframe are to be used for spare for the ones they have already and 3 are to be put immediately in service. Simulator is included in the deal hence. .. Alas, no Training for the French industry.

 

[Foo Fighter]

Spin off question, carbon panels and sections, recycled, how?

 

[Archibald]

Sell?!! At 12M€ the lot of 5 (fully operational), it's a gift
See the Great aircraft Bazaar thread

Don't forget, France is closing his own little Davis Monthan boneyard - I mean, Chateaudun. Old these scrap airframes have to go.
(didn't knew we had sold those antiquated Jaguars to India !)

 

[TomS]

As written extensively in the mentioned thread (sorry for that), 2 airframe are to be used for spare for the ones they have already and 3 are to be put immediately in service. Simulator is included in the deal hence. .. Alas, no Training for the French industry.

Who do you think will run that simulator? Who do you think will train the operators and maintainers? There are going to be French techreps there as long as the planes are in service.

 

[DWG]

Spin off question, carbon panels and sections, recycled, how?

Either burn the resin off, or dissolve it off in solvent, AIUI.

 

[TomcatViP]

As written extensively in the mentioned thread (sorry for that), 2 airframe are to be used for spare for the ones they have already and 3 are to be put immediately in service. Simulator is included in the deal hence. .. Alas, no Training for the French industry.

Who do you think will run that simulator? Who do you think will train the operators and maintainers? There are going to be French techreps there as long as the planes are in service.

It's possible. But after 40 years of Etendard flying, they might not need to burden the budget for expensive expats...

For example, Latin America countries have flown their Sabre, T-33 or T-37 without US personnel for years.

 

[TomS]

It's possible. But after 40 years of Etendard flying, they might not need to burden the budget for expensive expats...

For example, Latin America countries have flown their Sabre, T-33 or T-37 without US personnel for years.

Perhaps not. But at least then the French got some money for aircraft that would otherwise be scrap metal. If you think there's a market somewhere that will pay top dollar for used 1970s/80s vintage aircraft, you're mistaken.

 

[TomcatViP]

Boeing starts production of T-7 training jet simulators

Boeing will deliver the first ground-based training systems to the Air Force in 2023.

www.defensenews.com

 

[RavenOne]

Production has started

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7dPLSHhAn8

 

[helmutkohl]

more from Boeing direct

Boeing Begins T-7A Red Hawk Advanced Trainer Production

ST. LOUIS, Feb. 23, 2021 — A new era in aircraft design and build has begun as the first U.S. portion of the T-7A Red Hawk advanced trainer has officially entered the Boeing [NYSE:BA] jet’s...

boeing.mediaroom.com

 

[Mark Nankivil]

I have not seen any word on where the production line is to be set up. Hope St. Louis so I can catch some flying but anyone know where?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Excalibur66]

I have not seen any word on where the production line is to be set up. Hope St. Louis so I can catch some flying but anyone know where?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

I have not seen any word on where the production line is to be set up. Hope St. Louis so I can catch some flying but anyone know where?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

I have not seen any word on where the production line is to be set up. Hope St. Louis so I can catch some flying but anyone know where?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2019/05/08/saab-to-build-new-t-x-plant-in-indiana/ Saab will build most of the sections in Indiana then sent it to St Louis for final assembly.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

I have not seen any word on where the production line is to be set up. Hope St. Louis so I can catch some flying but anyone know where?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

I have not seen any word on where the production line is to be set up. Hope St. Louis so I can catch some flying but anyone know where?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

I have not seen any word on where the production line is to be set up. Hope St. Louis so I can catch some flying but anyone know where?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2019/05/08/saab-to-build-new-t-x-plant-in-indiana/ Saab will build most of the sections in Indiana then sent it to St Louis for final assembly.

Thanks - guess I'll see some new aircraft flying! Mark

 

[TomcatViP]

Boeing, Navy Discuss T-7A As Goshawk Replacement

The Navy has "no program of record right now" to replace its T-45 trainers, said Chuck Dabundo, Boeing VP for T-7 programs, but the company is "working closely with them in answering questions" about the T-7A Red Hawk's capabilities.

breakingdefense.com

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