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- Sep 27, 2006
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This is based on the heavily disguised model shown at the Paris AirShow.
I just want to know why the British insisted on multinational collaboration rather than pursuing the UKVG as a purely indigenous British aircraft. I've heard from some places that the British government had mandated that they would only procure multinational planes in the future, but I have not been able to verify this. If it's true I would like to know what their reasoning was. I've always been all about country of origin of aircraft, I just don't see the merits of multinational aircraft. Different requirements between different countries and political disagreements lead to delays and cost overruns which negate any advantage in shared development costs, plus it takes away from the national pride that developing an advanced military aircraft brings. Morale is important. Last part is just my two cents, if anyone has any info on the British government requiring multinational collaboration, please share.
Is there any additional information specifically about the NKF? I've tried to research this aircraft (want to get an idea of how much Germany actually contributed to the final production model design of the Tornado) but there's nothing about it online, if anyone has any background on the NKF I would love to read about it.From "Meilensteine der Luftfahrt: Die deutschen Senkrechtstarter", DaimlerChrysler Aerospace:
An artist impression of the NKF and a 3-view of the Panavia 100, the single seat version of
the MRCA Tornado.
While it's true that the TF-30 was a trashcan of a fighter engine (no seriously, pilots joked that the F-14A was "a nice airplane powered by two pieces of sh*t"), the GE F110 in the F-14B remedied the aircraft's engine problems and provided more thrust. The F-14 was a very capable dogfighter, it had a phenomenal roll rate and the VG wings gave it a much smaller turn radius than its contemporaries, the Tomcat was very strong in the 1-circle fight because of this, and was also a decent rate fighter, albeit not as good as the F-15 or the rocketship we know as the Viper in the rate fight.Re Tornado dogfighting, the RB.199 was targeted at two design points IIRC: low level high speed cruise/penetration (mil thrust) and Mach 2 at altitude in a straight line for interception (original MRCA/IDS was intended for this, before ADV) in 'burner. Generally, 'off design', Tornado lacked thrust, and dogfights need lots of it, even with auto-sweep.
That said, I recall someone saying that the most realistic thing about Top Gun was the bedroom scenes. I'm not sure the F-14 was too great a dogfighter - engines also a bit low thrust on A model.
AFVG with M.45s seems to be an even worse candidate.