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SNCASO (Société nationale des constructions aéronautiques du sud-ouest, or commonly, Sud-Ouest) was a French aircraft manufacturer, which originated on November 16, 1936, from the merger of the factories of Blériot of Suresnes, Bloch of Villacoublay and Courbevoie, SASO (Société Aéronautique du Sud-Ouest) of Bordeaux-Mérignac, UCA (Usine de Construction Aéronautique) of Bordeaux-Bègles, SAB (Société Aérienne Bordelaise) of Bordeaux-Bacalan and Lioré et Olivier of Rochefort. Additionally, SNCASO built a factory in Déols in 1936. SNCASO took over SNCAO's assets in 1941. On March 1, 1957, SNCASO merged with SNCASE (Société nationale de constructions aéronautiques du sud-est), to form Sud Aviation (Source: Wikipedia).

This list is a work in progress. Information will soon be added next to the designations. If you see any mistake or omission, feel free to say so! The list will be updated accordingly.

SO 10 formerly known as the Bloch MB 1010
SO 11 formerly known as the Bloch MB 1011

SO 20 formerly known as the Bloch MB 1020

SO 30N Bellatrix twin-engined mid-wing transport with Gnome & Rhône 14N-49 engines, formerly known as as the Bloch MB 1030 (1 built)
SO 30R Bellatrix variant with Gnome & Rhône 14R-5 engines (2 built)
SO 30P.1 Bretagne, production version with Pratt & Whitney R-2800-B43 engines (30 built)
SO 30P.2 Bretagne, production version with Pratt & Whitney R-2800-CA13 engines (10 built)
SO 30C twin-engined cargo transport (1 built)
SO 30 "Nene" experimental twin-jet variant (1 built)
SO 30 "Atar" experimental twin-jet variant (1 conversion)
SO 31P planned variant
SO 33 planned high-wing, single-fin variant (not built)

SO 40 formerly known as the Bloch MB 1040

SO 60A swept low wing airliner project with three Atar 101 (different layouts studied) (not built)
SO 60B unswept low wing variant with four jet engines (not built)
SO 60C jet airliner project (Caravelle competitor) with two Atar engines and two Marboré boosters (not built)

SO 70 long-range transatlantic airliner project (not built)
SO 71 heavy bomber project for 1944/45 B6/R6 competition (not built)
SO 72 cargo version of SO.70 (not built)

SO 80 formerly known as the Bloch MB 800

SO 90 Cassiopée, twin-engined 8-passenger transport started as the Bloch MB 900; powered by 325 hp Bearn 6D-07 engines (3 built)
SO 91 planned version of SO.90 with tricycle undercarriage (not built)
SO 93 Corse, prototype powered by Renault 12S engines (1 built)
SO 94 Corse I, production 10 passenger version (15 built)
SO 94R Corse, radar training conversion of S.O.94
SO 95 Corse II, production 13-passenger version with tail-wheel undercarriage, all delivered to the military as S.O.95M (45 built)
SO 96 turbojet-powered version (not built)

SO 161 designation sometimes found for the Bloch 161 / SE 161

SO 175B variant of the Bloch 175
SO 177 variant of the Bloch 175 fighter re-engined with two 860 hp Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 engines

SO 200C.1 was SNCAO.200

SO 830 project with retractable gear, no details

SO 1010 dive bomber project (not built)

SO 1020 dive bomber project (not built)

SO 1030 dive bomber project (not built)

SO 1040 also found as the SO 1014 (see under SO C.1)

SO 1070 twin-boom twin-engined attack aircraft project, became the NC 1070 (not built)
SO 1071 twin-engined attack aircraft project (not built)
SO 1072 twin-engined attack aircraft project (not built)

SO 1100 Ariel I two-seat experimental helicopter (1 built)

SO 1110 Ariel II (2 built)

SO 1120 Ariel III three-seat experimental helicopter (1 built), also known as the Breguet 1120

SO 1220 Djinn uncovered single-seat light observation helicopter with rotors driven by compressed-air jets at the end of each blade (1 + 178 built)
SO 1221 Djinn two-seat light helicopter prototypes (5 built)

SO 1310 Farfadet gyrodyne type aircraft with tip-jet driven, three-bladed rotor, fixed wing and turboprop engine driving nose-mounted propeller (1 built)

SO 1340 compound helicopter project (not built)

SO 1350 compound helicopter project (not built)

SO 3020 led to SNCAN NC 3021 Belphégor

SO 3030 transatlantic aircraft project (not built)

SO 3050 commercial low-wing two-seater (1 built)

SO 4000 two-seat experimental medium bomber (1 built)

SO 4010 version of SO 4050 (not built)
SO 4015 design that led to the Vautour II (not built)

SO 4050 Vautour bomber, interceptor, and attack aircraft (3 prototypes + 6 pre-prod.)
SO 4050 Vautour IIA single-seat tactical support fighter-bomber (30 built)
SO 4050 Vautour IIB two-seat bomber version (40 built)
SO 4050 Vautour IIN all-weather two-seat interceptor (70 built)
SO 4054 Vautour variant (not built)
SO 4055 Vautour variant (not built)
SO 4058 Vautour variant (not built)

SO 4060 Super Vautour project (not built)
SO 4061 Super Vautour variant (not built)
SO 4062 Super Vautour variant (not built)

SO 4070 thre-engined ramjet-powered design (not built)

SO 4080 twin-engined ramjet-powered design (not built)

SO 5000 global courier aircraft project, a turboprop-powered forerunner of the Champagne (not built)

SO 5100 Champagne four jet airliner aircraft project (not built)

SO 6000J Triton first French jet aircraft, powered by a Junkers Jumo 109-004 engine (1 built)
SO 6000P Triton, production aircraft powered by a Rolls-Royce Nene 101 engine (3 built)

SO 6005 Triton planned trainer variant (not built)

SO 6020 Espadon single-seat fighter (2 built)
SO 6021 Espadon single-seat fighter, lighter variant (1 built)
SO 6025 Espadon single-seat fighter (1 conversion)
SO 6026 Espadon single-seat fighter (1 conversion)

SO 6100 Requin jet strike fighter project (not built)

SO 6150 Requin II jet strike fighter project (not built)

SO 6160 further development of the Requin, competing with the Bréguet Taon (not built)

SO 7010 Pégase small low-wing transport with two Mathis G8R engines driving a single propeller (1 built)

SO 7050 Deauville all-metal low/mid-wing two-seat light private/trainer aircraft with fixed tailwheel undercarriage (1 built)
SO 7055 Deauville same aircraft modified with Régnier engine (1 conversion)
SO 7056 Deauville version with Mignet engine (1 built)

SO 7060 Deauville three-seat version of SO-7055 (2 conversions)

SO 7100 Dogue twin-engined ground-attack aircraft (not built)

SO 8000 Narval carrier-borne twin-boom single-seat fighter (2 built)

SO 8010 Narval proposal to fit a Rolls-Royce Nene centrifugal-flow turbojet (not built)

SO 9000 Trident I mixed power experimental interceptor aircraft (2 built)

SO 9050 Trident II more powerful pre-production aircraft with two Dassault MD-30 Vipers and one SEPR 631 rocket (3 built)
SO 9050 Trident III variant with three Turboméca 'Gabizo' engines and one SEPR 632 rocket (3 built)

SO M.1 unpowered glider to test the configuration of the SO.4000 flown on to of the single Heinkel He 274 (1 built)
SO M.2 half-scale flying model of the SO.4000 powered with Rolls-Royce Derwent engine (1 built)

SO P.1 Ferblantine high-performance all-metal gull-wing glider (1 built)

SO C.1 small single-seat design probably derived from the Bloch MB 1011; also found as the SO 1014 or SO 1040 (not built)

SB-2 SNCASO-Bloch project?, no details
 

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SNCASO SO.60C - Jet airliner airliner project ( 2 x Atar & 2 x Marboré booster) (Caravelle competitor)
 

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Hi,

SO.71 was heavy bomber project for 1944/45 B6/R6 competition.
SO.72 was cargo version of SO.70.
SO.91 was a version of SO.90 with tricycle u/c.
SO.96 a turbojet powered version.
SO.200C.1 was SNCAO.200.
SO.1010,SO.1020 & SO.1030 were dive bomber projects.
SO.1340 & SO.1350 were a compound helicopter projects.
SO.4010,SO.4054,SO.4055 & SO.4058 were a versions of SO.4050.
SO.4061 & SO.4062 developed from SO.4060.
 

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S.O.60A - low-wing, swept wing, 3 x Atar 101 (different layouts: two engines beneath the wings and one in the rear fuselage or three engines beneath the wing - ???)

S.O.60B – unswept low-wing, 4 x jet engines

SOURCE: Der Flieger 1/1954, page 10 & 11
 

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A little bit OT:

Sud Ouest YHO-1 - US Army designation of S.O.1221 -> SOURCE: Flugzeuge von A bis Z volume III, page 355
 

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boxkite said:
Sud Ouest YHO-1 - US Army designation of S.O.1221 -> SOURCE: Flugzeuge von A bis Z volume III, page 355

Yeah, correct. The full designation was YHO-1-DJ in an Army-only "HO-for observation helicopter" series ("DJ" being assigned as a company suffix for SNCASE here...).

For your information (and to REALLY be off-topic), this series had five more types besides the Djinn: YHO-2-HU (initially ordered as the XH-42) was the Hughes 269; YHO-3-BR was the Brantly B-2; YHO-4-BF was the Bell 206 prototype (quite different from the later 206A Jet Ranger); YHO-5-UH was the Hiller 1100; and YHO-6-HU was the Hughes 369 (the latter three evolved into the H-4, H-5 and H-6 of the new tri-service series in 1962).

The puzzling fact for the historian is that the "HO" series was a duplicate, as the prefix had already been used a little before by the Army for VTOL platforms: YHO-1-E for the Hiller 1031-A-1 (soon redesignated VZ-1-E) and YHO-2 for the De Lackner DH-4/-5 Aerocycle (soon redesignated as HZ-1).

The U.S. Army Djinn has been preserved, see picture below ("usaf" in the picture's name is incorrect since it was a purely Army project).
 

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SO 60 from an old "Aviation magazine"
 

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I have reorganized all the information pertaining to SNCASO (Sud-Ouest Aviation) from various topics.

Here is a list of all SNCASO-related topics on the forum:

SNCASO / Sud-Ouest Aviation (SO) designations
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12492.0

SNCASO (Sud-Ouest Aviation) projects
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15902.0

SO.30N « Bellatrix »
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3040.msg24474.html#msg24474

SO.30 derivative versions
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12423.0

SO.30 « Bretagne » with four engines !
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3268.0

SO.70 transatlantic airliner project
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12417.0

SO.80 « Biarritz » and SO.90 « Bayonne »
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4518.0

SO.1040 (SO.C1) single-seat fighter
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9776.0

SO.1070,SO.1071 & SO.1072 attack projects
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9789.0

SO.3030 transatlantic aircraft
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9775.0

SO.4060 "Super Vautour"
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,453.0

SO.5100 « Champagne »
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3068.0

SO.7100 « Dogue » ground attack/COIN aircraft project

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12404.0

SO.8000 « Narval »
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3945.0
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,773.msg5946.html#msg5946

SO.9000 « Trident »
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6487.0

Dictionnaire Fanatique du Trident
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7979.0

SO.M1
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,921.0

Zeppelin/SNCASO ZSO 523
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,517.0

SNCASO-ONERA « Deltaviex »
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1263.0

And links to other sites:

SO.30 « Bretagne » flight test report
http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/archives/archives_vrac.html

SO.1010/1020/1030 dive bomber projects
http://modelarchives.free.fr/Bestiaire/Pique_P/index.html

"SNCASO 1936-1957" by Florence Rimbert
http://www.aerostories.org/~aerobiblio/article1389.html
 

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Hi all,
And, here,from "aviation-ancienne.fr"
the SO 50
Do you know more ?
Bye
 

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In Le Fana no.213 on the SO.30, there are details on early SNCASO projects.
After the defeat in 1940, the design bureau was in Châteauroux and had these projects:
- SO.10 is an early name for the SO.P-1 glider by Servanty
- SO.20 is an experimental aircraft by Herbemont, abandoned very soon
- SO.30 by Parot is well known
- SO.50 is a four-engine cargo plane by Fandeux, abandoned in March 1941 when the bureau was transferred to Cannes
- SO.80 is a two-engine postal plane, later renamed SO.800, and not related to the former MB.800
On the Bloch MB.1020, the same article says that it was also called BA.1020 for Bordeaux Aéronautique, a company created by Bloch after the nationalization, and that it became the MD.1020R after the war. This model does not related to the SO.20, and I seriously wonder about the claim that the MB.1010/1020/1040 became SO.10/20/40 ?
 

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c460 said:
In Le Fana no.213 on the SO.30, there are details on early SNCASO projects.
After the defeat in 1940, the design bureau was in Châteauroux and had these projects:
- SO.10 is an early name for the SO.P-1 glider by Servanty
- SO.20 is an experimental aircraft by Herbemont, abandoned very soon
- SO.30 by Parot is well known
- SO.50 is a four-engine cargo plane by Fandeux, abandoned in March 1941 when the bureau was transferred to Cannes
- SO.80 is a two-engine postal plane, later renamed SO.800, and not related to the former MB.800
On the Bloch MB.1020, the same article says that it was also called BA.1020 for Bordeaux Aéronautique, a company created by Bloch after the nationalization, and that it became the MD.1020R after the war. This model does not related to the SO.20, and I seriously wonder about the claim that the MB.1010/1020/1040 became SO.10/20/40 ?

Great info, c460, thanks a lot! In case anyone wonders what the SO.P-1 (nicknamed « Ferblantine ») was, see the attachment below:
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
Great info, c460, thanks a lot! In case anyone wonders what the SO.P-1 (nicknamed « Ferblantine ») was, see the attachment below:
You're welcome. Here is a scan of the article's relevant page. In the other thread on Bloch designations, I posted scans of the next two pages mentioning the MB.1020.
 

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My dear C460,


did this article spoke about SNCASO SO.31 and SO.33 projects ?.
 

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hesham said:
did this article spoke about SNCASO SO.31 and SO.33 projects ?.
The fourth part of the article, in Le Fana no.216, mentions the SO.31 P and has a three-view of the SO.33. It is the scan posted by Toura in this thread on the SO.30.

To add further on the SNCASO designations, the 2nd part of the article, in Le Fana no.214, says that the early name of the SO.90 with tricycle gear was SO.90 B (later SO.93).
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
... In case anyone wonders what the SO.P-1 (nicknamed « Ferblantine ») was, see the attachment below:

Many thanks for that one. Had seen this type many years ago, but only a cut out, leaving much more details
in the dark.
 

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There is more in Le Fana no.333, in an article about the Bloch 800 and SO.800 by MM. Ricco and Jung:
- SO.20 was an experimental trainer, that could be transformed into a fighter, abandoned in Nov. 1940
- SO.40, not in the July 1940 list, was wind tested in Oct. 1940, perhaps a lengthened version of the SO.30
- in the July 1940 list, SO.60 and 70 gaps were perhaps intentional, for evolutions of the SO.50
- SO.80 became SO.800 and is called MB.800 P in some documents ; the prototype was painted "Bloch 800 P" ; it was different but perhaps distantly related to the earlier MB.800 three-seat trainer (P3), created by the same designer Le Bihan
- SO.820 was a variant of the SO.800 wind tested in early 1941 ; the two-fin configuration was replaced by a single fin during the tests ; authorization was given to build the 820 but the prototype (with single fin) was finally called 800 P as said above
- SO.820 bis was another variant with widened rear fuselage
- SO.830 was wind tested in March 1941, no detail known
- SO.180 was a postal aircraft with two Renault 6Q and tricycle gear, related to the SO.93, date unknown

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The info about the SO.91 comes from Flight magazine, 22 June 1944. It may be right, but we should be cautious because Flight authors did not have direct access to the occupied French industry.
 

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My dear C460,


the Flight magazine described the SO.91 precisely,and may be they had
their sources.
 

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Hi,


the SNCASO SO.20 was a two seat trainer based on Bloch MB.700.
 

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In Le Trait d'Union no.245, special issue on the SO.90, Philippe Ricco gives the same description of early wartime projects SO.10, SO.20, SO.30, SO.50, SO.80 as in earlier Fana articles. Interestingly, he says that the gaps are explained by the will to leave space for future derivatives. This means that the SO.60, SO.70 came later, and maybe there was no SO.40 at all.

In the Docavia book about Nieuport, the authors say that SNCASO designations were divided in four series after several teams moved to Cannes in 1941, coming from the former SNCASO, SNCAN (ex-CAMS), SNCAC (ex-Farman), SNCAO (ex-Nieuport):
- series 10: heavy aircraft, Parot, Béziaud & Le Bihan design teams, supervised by Deplante
- series 1000: light aircraft, Pillon design team (former Nieuport / SNCAO)
- series 2000: seaplanes, Buret design team (former CAMS / SNCAN)
- series 3000: pressurized ("stratospheric") aircraft, Rocca design team (former Farman / SNCAC)

See also this document about the Cannes factory:
http://www.cannes-aero-patrimoine.net/pdf/pub/caspk_APADH__005_Jung_His_Cannes.pdf

In addition to those already listed, the Nieuport book shows a SO.1000 dive bomber project with two HS 12 Z, and an "E.1910", early configuration for the SO.1070.

Skyblazer, could you please update the initial list from the new information posted since 2013 ?
 

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Skyblazer said:
SO 1310 Farfadet gyrodyne type aircraft with tip-jet driven, three-bladed rotor, fixed wing and turboprop engine driving nose-mounted propeller (1 built)

SO 1340 compound helicopter project (not built)

SO 1350 compound helicopter project (not built)

Hi,
There is a very good article about the Farfadet in Avions no.198.
Two examples of the SO.1310 were built, the first one with tip burners and the other with simpler compressed air jets.
The SO.1340 was a heavy compound helicopter project with four turbines, two of which were driving tractor propellors.
The SO.1350 was a heavy helicopter project, with four turbines.

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SO 1120 Ariel III three-seat experimental helicopter (1 built), also known as the Breguet 1120

I'm very surprised by the designation "Breguet 1120", I think it's wrong.

Adrien
 

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'Les Avions Breguet' by Jean Cuny/Pierre Leyvastre says the Breguet 112/1120 Sirocco was a development of the Breguet 1001 Taon.
 

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SO 3020 led to SNCAN SNCAC NC 3021 Belphégor

SO 3030 transatlantic aircraft project (not built)

SO 3050 commercial low-wing two-seater (1 built)

The SO.3000 was a multi-engine project started by SNCAC as NC.170.
The SO.3010 was a project transport aircraft with two Hispano 12 Z, started by SNCAC as NC.180/181.
(Source : Philippe Ricco in Avions no.207.)
The SO.3020 project was perhaps started as the NC.190 (source: Michel Borget in Le Fana no.389).

The SO.3000 to SO.3020 projects (and surely the SO.3030) were designed by an ex-Farman / SNCAC team led by Marcel Roca, based in Cannes under SNCASO administration from 1941 to 1944.
 

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Great find my dear Adien,

and for SNCASO SO.3030;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4518.msg90030.html#msg90030
 

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From Aviation Magazine 1951,

the SNCASO SO.1300 convertiplane was the basis for all this series.
 

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In Le Trait d'Union no.245, special issue on the SO.90, Philippe Ricco gives the same description of early wartime projects SO.10, SO.20, SO.30, SO.50, SO.80 as in earlier Fana articles. Interestingly, he says that the gaps are explained by the will to leave space for future derivatives. This means that the SO.60, SO.70 came later, and maybe there was no SO.40 at all.

In the Docavia book about Nieuport, the authors say that SNCASO designations were divided in four series after several teams moved to Cannes in 1941, coming from the former SNCASO, SNCAN (ex-CAMS), SNCAC (ex-Farman), SNCAO (ex-Nieuport):
- series 10: heavy aircraft, Parot, Béziaud & Le Bihan design teams, supervised by Deplante
- series 1000: light aircraft, Pillon design team (former Nieuport / SNCAO)
- series 2000: seaplanes, Buret design team (former CAMS / SNCAN)
- series 3000: pressurized ("stratospheric") aircraft, Rocca design team (former Farman / SNCAC)

See also this document about the Cannes factory:

In addition to those already listed, the Nieuport book shows a SO.1000 dive bomber project with two HS 12 Z, and an "E.1910", early configuration for the SO.1070.

Skyblazer, could you please update the initial list from the new information posted since 2013 ?

From 1946 Aviation Francaise...it must be 2000 series...
1946 Aviation Francaise 20190509-027.jpg
 

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Nice find dear Bazinga,

and maybe it was SO.2020,SO.2030 or SO.2040,because the SO.2000,SO.2010 and SO.2011 were
a four engined Projects,and the early three Projects were studied in 1943 ?.
 

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From Aviation Francaise 1945,

a more Info about SO.91.
 

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Nice find dear Bazinga,

and maybe it was SO.2020,SO.2030 or SO.2040,because the SO.2000,SO.2010 and SO.2011 were
a four engined Projects,and the early three Projects were studied in 1943 ?.

Hello Hesham

I have no record of a 2000 series design at all, not in SNCASO nor in CAMS or SNCAN. SNCAN has 2000 series models but none are seaplanes afaik. Any info or pics would be appreciated. I started looking at Les Ailes and Aerophile around 1946 but no luck so far. Usually these were 'press releases' and would be picked up by more than one av mag editor.
 

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Hi Bazinga,

unfortunately a very small Info about them,the SO.2000 was a four engined civil transport flying boat Project,
the SO.2010 was a military derivative and SO.2011 was developed from Model-2010,and they were studied
in 1942.
 

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Hi Bazinga,

unfortunately a very small Info about them,the SO.2000 was a four engined civil transport flying boat Project,
the SO.2010 was a military derivative and SO.2011 was developed from Model-2010,and they were studied
in 1942.
Then there is some likelyhood that this indeed is a SO.2000 series (but unconfirmed) and that this design was revealed after France was liberated. I really have no other trace of a seaplane by SNCASO that comes close.
 

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From Aviation magazine 1951,

here is an Info about SNCASO early aircraft series.
 

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To know the early SNCASO series,it began from SO.80 as following;

SO.80 was formerly known as the Bloch MB 800
SO.90 Cassiopée was a twin-engined 8-passenger transport started as the Bloch MB 900
SO.91,SO.92,SO.93,SO.94,SO.95 & SO.96 Corse
were a variants,developed from SO.90
SO.100 probably not used
"then started from Type-10";

SO.10 was an early name for the SO.P-1 glider by Servanty,a single seat mid-wing with enclosed cabin
SO.10/I was a two-seat version,just a Project from SO.10
SO.20 was an experimental trainer, that could be transformed into a fighter, abandoned in Nov. 1940
SO.30 Bellatrix was a twin-engined mid-wing transport with Gnome & Rhône 14N-49 engines,
formerly known as as the Bloch MB 1030
SO.31 & SO.32 were a developed versions of SO.30
SO.33 was a high-wing, single-fin variant,developed from SO.30,Project only
SO.40 was a developed version of SO.30,maybe a large one,Project only
SO.50 was a a four-engine shoulder-wing cargo plane by Fandeux, abandoned in March 1941 when the bureau
was transferred to Cannes ,Project only
SO.60/I was a developed version of SO.50,Project only
SO.60/IIA was a swept low wing airliner Project with three Snecma Atar 101 turbojet engines (different layouts
studied),a rival to SNCASE Caravelle
SO.60/IIB was an unswept low wing variant with four jet engines,Project
SO.60/IIC was a jet airliner Project,with two Atar engines and two Marboré boosters
SO.70 was a long-range transatlantic airliner Project
SO.70A was a refine Project version,powered by four 2200 hp Gnome-Rhone 18R engines
SO.70B was a version of SO.70,but powered by four 3000 hp Hispano-Suiza 24Z engines,mounted each pair
in tandem position
SO.71 was a heavy bomber version for 1944/45 B6/R6 competition,powered by four 2800 hp Gnome-Rhone 18R
engines,Project only
SO.72 was a cargo version of SO.70,Project only,had a fat or large fuselage,also nose and rear doors for
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SNCASO SO.60C - Jet airliner airliner project ( 2 x Atar & 2 x Marboré booster) (Caravelle competitor)

From Aviation Magazine 1952,the same strange Info.
 

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From Aviation magazine 1970,

it's first time to hear about SNCASO SO.7065 ?.
 

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Hi,

- I add some details to the first series

I will start the list for second series;

SO.161 was a designation sometimes found for the Bloch 161 / SE 161
SO.174 was a formerly Bloch MB.174
SO.175B was a variant of Bloch MB.175
SO.177 was a variant of the Bloch 175 fighter re-engined with two 860 hp Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 engines
SO.180 was a three-seat mid-wing light transport monoplane,developed from SO.80,powered by two 220
hp Renault 6Q20 engines,Project
SO.200 was formerly SNCAO.200 Fighter
SO.810 was a developed version of Bloch MB.800,tested in 1939
SO.820 was a developed version of Bloch MB.800,tested in 1941
SO.830 was a developed version of Bloch MB.800,tested in 1941

SO.1000 was a two-seat high-wing dive bomber monoplane Project,powered by two Hispano-Suiza 12Z engines
SO.1010 was a two-seat high-wing dive bomber monoplane Project version,powered by two 400 hp Bearn engines
SO.1020 was a single seat mid-wing dive bomber monoplane Project,but powered by one Hispano-Suiza 12Z engine
SO.1030 was a single seat mid-wing twin-boom dive bomber monoplane Project,powered by one Hispano-
Suiza 12Z pusher engine
SO.1040 was a single seat low-mid-wing fighter monoplane Project,powered by one 1470 hp P&W R-1830 engine
SO.1050 was unknown design
SO.1060 was unknown design,mentioned in TU magazine
SO.1070 was a three-seat mid-wing twin-boom torpedo and dive bomber Project,powered by two 1600 hp Gnome-
Rhône 14R-24 engines,later became SNCAC NC.1070
SO.1071 was a three seat mid-wing attack monoplane Project (not twin boom),powered by the same engines
SO.1072 was a three seat mid-wing attack monoplane Project (not twin boom),powered by the same engines,
had a bigger fuselage
SO.1080 was unknown design
SO.1090 was unknown design
SO.1100 Ariel I was a two-seat experimental tip-jet helicopter,powered by one 220 hp Mathis G8 compressor
engine
SO.1110 Ariel II was improved version of SO.110,with a modified control system and revised tail surfaces,and
powered by one Turbomeca compressor engine
SO.1120 Ariel III was a three-seat all metal helicopter,and a fitted with fixed tricycle undercarriage ,powered
by one 275 hp Turbomeca Artouste turbine engine
SO.1130 to SO.1210 were unknown designs
SO.1220 Djinn was a single seat Army support helicopter,with open frame structure and landing skids,powered
by one 250 hp Turbomeca Palouste turbine engine
SO.1221 Djinn was a production version for French Army,with enclosed transparent cockpit structure and
enlarge tail with tailplane and end fins,powered by one 240 hp Turbomeca Palouste VI turbine engine
SO.1230 to SO.1290 were unknown designs
SO.1300 Farfadet was a three-seat experimental compound helicopter Project,later developed into below
SO.1310 Farfadet was a three-seat experimental compound all metal helicopter,with small wings,fixed tricycle
undercarriage and four-blade main rotor,powered by one 360 hp Turbomeca Arrius turbine engine driven rotor tips,
plus one 360 hp Turbomeca Artouste turboprop engine driven main rotor
SO.1320 Farfadet was unknown version
SO.1330 Farfadet was a Project version with a more powerful engine
SO.1340 Farfadet was a larger medium transport Project,with longer rotor and high-wing,powered by four 600 hp
Turbomeca Artouste III engines
SO.1350 Farfadet was a smaller version of SO.1340,and a lower estimated speed,but powered by three 600 hp Turbomeca Artouste III engines
SO.1901 or E.1901 was a twin-boom attack project,with short beams,shorter than the fuselage, and with
large vertical fins. These vertical drifts led to their upper ends a horizontal empennage of 6 m wingspan,
and consider a small version of SO.1070,powered by two 400 hp Bearn engines
SO.1910 or E.1910 was probably an evolution of the light twin-engine aircraft from the Marine program. fitted
with “Béarn” engines and modified with a shorter fuselage to facilitate his embarkation on board the light aircraft
carrier PA 25 in project. The time zones were extended into beams supporting a raised horizontal tail.The project retained the characteristic wing shape of the SO 1000 and anticipated the SO 1070 produced after the war under
the designation of NC 1070
SO.2000 was a transport seaplane Project on floats,powered by four engines
SO.2010 was a military seaplane version of SO.2000,powered by four engines,Project
SO.2011 was also a military seaplane Project,based on SO.2010,powered by four engines
SO.2020 Barfleur was a high-wing large flying boat monoplane Project,powered by six engine,need confirm
SO.2030 was a flying boat Project of 1943,no more Info
SO.2040 was a flying boat Project of 1943,no more Info
SO.3000 was a single engined high-altitude research monoplane Project,a redesigned of SNCAC NC.170
SO.3010 was a transport Project versions of SO.3000,powered by two Hispano 12 Z engines,a redesigned
of SNCAC NC.180/181
SO.3020 was a stratosphere high-altitude research monoplane Project,powered by single engined,a redesigned
of SNCAC NC.190
SO.3030/I was a mid-wing transatlantic medium transport monoplane Project,powered by two engines,and with
streamlined fuselage
SO.3030/II was a Project version of SO.3030,but had a raised cockpit and lower position of rear wing,also powered
by two engines
SO.3040 was unknown design
SO.3050 was a side-by-side two seat touring and light monoplane,had a cantilever low-wing shape,powered
by one 140 hp Renault 4Pei engine
SO.4000 was a two-seat high-mid-wing jet bomber monoplane Project,powered by two Rolls Royce Nene 102
turbojet engines
SO.4000/I was a Project version with more swept wing configuration,powered by the same engines
SO.4000/II was a building version,with a raised cockpit,powered by the same engines
SO.4000 ASW was an ASW patrol aircraft Project,but powered by two Rolls Royce Tyne turboprop engines
SO.4010 was a high-wing Project version,powered by two Snecma ATAR 101 or Rolls Royce Avon turbojet
engines,with more swept back wing,and the engines mounted under the wings
SO.4015 was a developed version of SO.4010,but powered by two TB1500 turbojet engines,in the same
position
SO.4050 Vautour I was a single seat high swept wing attack bomber Project,powered by two Snecma ATAR
turbojet engines,mounted under the wing
SO.4050.01 Vautour I was a two-seat all-weather fighter prototype, powered by twoSnecma ATAR 101B
turbojet engines,but had a mid-wing
SO.4050.02 Vautour I was a single-seat ground-attack prototype, powered by two Snecma ATAR 101D
turbojet engines,but had a mid-wing
SO.4050.03 Vautour I was a two-seat bomber prototype, powered by two Armtrong Siddeley Sapphire
turbojet engines,but had a mid-wing
SO.4050.04 Vautour I was a two-seat medium bomber prototype,with ATAR D2 engines
SO.4050.05 Vautour I was a single seat attack prototype,with ATAR E3 engines
SO.4050.06 Vautour I was a two-seat night fighter prototype,with ATAR E3 engines
SO.4050.07 Vautour I was a single seat attack prototype,with ATAR E3 engines
SO.4050.08 Vautour I was a two-seat nigh fighter prototype,with ATAR E3 engines
SO.4050.09 Vautour I was a two-seat night fighter prototype,with Rolls Royce Avon RA41 engines
SO.4050 Vautour IIA was a single-seat, long-range attack aircraft version,armed with cannon and bombs,powered
by two Snecma ATAR 101E-3 or E-5 turbojet engines
SO.4050 Vautour IIB was a two-seat bomber with glazed nose position for bombardier/observer replacing cannon
pack, carrying bombs internally and on underwing pylons,powered by the same engines
SO.4050 Vautour IIN was a two-seat, all-weather interceptor with DRAC-25AI or DRAC-32AI radar in nose,
pilot and co-pilot in tandem seats,powered by the same engines
SO.4050 Vautour IIBR was similar to IIB,but with a Derveaux radar bombsight,powered by the same engines
SO.4050 Vautour IIR was a recce version,fitted with three cameras,powered by the same engines
SO.4050 Vautour IIPP was a five further Vautours modified for sampling the radioactive clouds generated by
the nuclear tests carried out in Mururoa
SO.4050 Vautour IIBRA was anther version to test nuclear clouds in late 1960
SO.4050 Vautour IIB-TT was a version for target tug
SO.4050 Vautour II Robot was unmanned robot flying bomb,Project
SO.4050 Vautour II Cyclone was a fighter version,with Wright Cyclone engines
SO.4050 Vautour IVB was a two-seat bomber as advanced version with revised wing,powered by RR AATR 8 engines
SO.4050 Vautour IVN was a single seat fighter version,with M4 fighter wing,powered by RR AATR 8 engines
SO.4054 Vautour IV was advanced Project version,powered by two Snecma ATAR 101 G-32 engines
SO.4055 Vautour IV was a shorter Project version,with new wing shape,powered by two RR RB.168-1 engines
SO.4058 Vautour IV was a Project version,also with the new wing
SO.4060 Super Vatour/I was based on SO.4050,consider a refine version,powered by two Snecma ATAR engine,
mounted under the wing,a heavy fighter Project
SO.4060 Super Vautour/II was a two-seat heavy fighter Project with delta wing and side intakes,powered by two Snecma ATAR engines
SO.4060 Super Vautour /III was a two-seat swept wing heavy fighter Project,also with side intakes,powered by two
Snecma ATAR engines,May 1955
SO.4060.01 Super Vautour was a two-seat mid-wing heavy fighter,powered by two Snecma ATAR 101-1 engines,never completed,had a single main two wheels,and side intakes
SO.4060.02 Super Vautour was a two-seat low-mid-wing heavy fighter,powered by two Snecma ATAR 9 engines,never completed,had a double main wheels in tandem
SO.4060.2B Super Vautour was a two-seat heavy fighter with longer fuselage,powered by two Snecma ATAR 25 engines,a Project
SO.4060.03 Super Vautour was a two-seat heavy fighter with more longer fuselage,powered by two Snecma ATAR 26 engines,remained a Project
SO.4060B Super Vautour was a single seat mid-wing bomber Project,powered by two Snecma ATAR 9 engines,has a single main two wheels
SO.4060 Super Vautour BII was a new bomber Project version,also with ATAR engines
SO.4060 Super Vautour BIV was unmanned robot flying bomb
SO.4060 Super Vautour M was a single seat mid-wing heavy marine fighter Project,intended to use from aircraft
carrier,powered by two two Snecma ATAR 25 engines
SO.4060 Super Vautour N was a two-seat all-weather interceptor Project,also with ATAR engines
SO.4060 Super Vautour Robot was unmanned flying bomb,Project
SO.4061 Super Vautour was an enlarge bomber Project version,with longer fuselage,powered by one Snecma super-
ATAR 18 engine
SO.4062 Super Vautour was a single seat naval fighter,a Project version of SO.4060M,powered by two
Snecma super-ATAR 14 engine
SO.4070 was a side-by-side two-seat delta wing heavy bomber Project,powered by three engines,one ATAR
turbojet above the rear of the fuselage and two ramjets under the wing
SO.4080 was a canard unmanned flying bomb Project,and a small wing,powered by two ramjets,mounted at
the tip of the wings
SO.5000 Phenix was an airliner transport Project,with double deck and powered by eight turboprop engines
SO.5100 Champagne was a low-wing single deck jet airliner and transport Project,powered by four Snecma ATAR
101E engines,each two mounted together under the wings
SO.6000J Triton was a side-by-side two-seat mid-wing experimental jet monoplane,powered by one Rateau
GTS-65,Junkers Jumo 004 B,RR Derwent V or RR Nene engine,with intake in front under a little of the nose
SO.6000N Triton was a production version,three were built,powered buy one Rolls -Royce Nene engine,but
had a side intakes
SO.6004 Triton maybe the same as SO.6000-04
SO.6005 Triton was a single seat trainer version,powered by one Rolls -Royce Nene engine,had a raised bubble
canopy and a streamline fuselage with bigger side intakes in half circle shape
SO.6008 Triton was an interceptor/fighter Project version of 1949,reject because poor performance,need
confirm
SO.6010 Triton was a Project version of SO.6000,fitted with weapons
SO.6015 Triton was a Project version,no more details
SO.6020 Espadon was a single seat mid-wing fighter/interceptor prototype,powered by one RR Nene engine,
later fitted with two wingtip-mounted Turbomeca Marbore turbojets
SO.6021 Espadon was intended as production version,but with a lighter-weight structure, ejection seat, smaller pressurised cockpit and hydraulically boosted flying controls,with a Turbomeca Marbore III turbojets
SO.6025 Espadon was a third prototype fitted with a SEPR 25 auxiliary liquid-fuel rocket beneath the fuselage
SO.6026 Espadon was a second prototype also modified with a SEPR 251 rocket engine
SO.6100 Requin/1 was a lightweight tactical strike fighter Project,powered by two Gabizo turbojet
engines
SO.6100 Requin/2 was a version but powered by one Snecma ATAR E2 engine,Project
SO.6150 Requin/II was a version of SO.6100,but powered by one RR AVON RA23 or Armstrong Siddeley
Sapphire Sa.7 turbojet engine,Project
SO.6160 was a naval version of SO.6150,Project
SO.7010 Pégase wasa six-seat low-wing light transport monoplane,powered by one 400 hp Mathis G.16 engine
SO.7050 Deauville was a side-by-side two-seat low-wing light utility monoplane,powered by one 75 hp Mathis
GO engine
SO.7055 Deauville was a version,powered by one 75 hp Minié 4Dc-32 engine
SO.7056 Deauville was a version,powered by one 105 hp Walter Minor 4-III engine
SO.7060 Deauville was a version,powered by one 105 hp Walter Minor 4-III engine,with tailwheel undercarriage ,
and with a third seat behind the side by side front seats
SO.7065 Deauville was unknown version,maybe a Project,need info
SO.8000 Narval was a single seat low-wing naval fighter prototype,powered by one 2250 hp Arsenal 12HO2
piston pusher engine
SO.8010 Narval was a jet Project version,powered by one Rolls Royce Nene engine
SO.9000 Trident I was a single seat high-mid-wing mixed powered interceptor,powered by two Dassault MD.30
Viper turbojet engines plus one rocket engine mounted at the pod of the fuselage
SO.9050 Trident II was a version,powered by two Turbomeca Gabizo jets plus two rocket engines
SO.9050 Trident IIIA was a version of Trident II,with some improvements,such as it armed and equipped with a
radar "Scout-pointer",fitted with the same three engines,on which the air intakes would have been fitted with
"Nuclei" (wave generator cones oblique shock)
SO.9050 Trident IIIB was a analogous to previous but with a wing and tail fin reduced by 6.43 at 4%. The fuselage
would have been lengthened without modification of the master-couple but with an adaptation of the plan shape
to minimize interaction trails
SO.9050 Trident IIIC was a completely redrawn (no common room with TT B): lengthening of the airfoil reduced
from 2.6 to 2.1, fuselage lengthened by 1m behind the wing, with application of the law of the areas, glass roof
deeply modified to improve visibility
SO.9050 Trident IV was a completely different Project,with high-wing and fitted with one Snecma Super-ATAR
and had a side intakes,and a two ramjet engines in wing tips
SO.9050 Trident Robot was a unmanned Project version,assisted by the removal of the pilot from his cabin
and its equipment would have allowed reduce the dimensions and mass of the interceptor, with equal operational possibilities
SO.9050 Videt was designed by the engineering Andre Vilet,which suggested a version with removing the
turbojets,to be powered by only rocket engines,Project
SO.9050 Trident Twin was a proposed by the engineering Marc Faure to mate two Trident airframes together
to produce a supersonic high altitude engine test bed
SO.10000 was a mid small wing missile Project

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