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Ryan Navion B (original design) :tandem two seat trainer to compete
Temco Plebe in USN competition of 1953.
Dauby E. co X-16 :win engined version of Ryan Navion with a strengthened
wings and powered by two 130 hp Lycoming engines.
 

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Hi all,

I search for a complete list of the Model-Numbers for the Ryan Aeronautical Company. Can you help?

Servus Maveric
 

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Hi,

for the completing list of the Model-Number to Ryan
Aeronautical Company,I think it was difficult,but I
saw a catalogue for Midland library a secondhand book
about the Ryan Aeronautical aircraft,
and I know that the Model-59 was jet trainer project
but no more details.
 

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Hi,

the Ryan Model-124,136,147,154,166,234,235,251,255,259 and
262 were RPV and the Model-324,350 and 410 were UAV.
 

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Here is a very incomplete list of Ryan designations, but it's the best I came up with this far:

List updated 22 September 2012:
NUMERICAL LIST

26/CUS Navy proposal (no details)
27BUS Navy (no details)
28FIREBALL (US Navy FR-1)
28-5SUPER FIREBALL (US Navy XFR-4)
TR-1 half-scale wooden mock-up of Fireball for Pasadena Tournament of Roses (1946)
29DARKSHARK (US Navy XF2R-1)
30DARKSHARK (US Navy XF2R-2)
? NAVION A, former North American Aviation NA-145 (commercial/US Army/Air Force L-17A) (1949 model)
36FIREBIRD experimental air-to-air missile (US Navy XAAM-N-1) > thanks aim9xray for this one!
38VTO fighter project for US Navy (38-1/-2/-3 / 38R)
39afterburner used in the Lockheed XP-80A
49FIREBEE (US Army XM21 / USAF XQ-2 / US Navy KDA-1)
? NAVION A (UTILITY 205/DELUXE 205) (1950 model)
? NAVION B development also known as Model NAV-4 (also L-17B > U-18B)
57"de-corroder" device to remove from exhaust gases the chemical contaminants which attack aircraft structural materials
59JET TRAINER project for USAF
61FIREBEE (USAF Q-2A)
69VERTIJET (USAF X-13) [MX-1976]
72NAVION C more powerful version (refused by US Navy)
73observation aircraft proposal for US Navy
84VTO Light Day Fighter designs for US Navy
84F-7turbofan-powered variant
88Monoplane and Biplane-Type Apparatus (Direct Ascent Aircraft)
92VERTIPLANE VTOL research aircraft (US Army VZ-3-RY)
103self-contained electronic automatic navigator for the Army Electronic Proving Ground
107automatic electronic navigator (also a version as AN/APN-67)
107Ccommercial version
108lightweight electronic navigator
109Gexternal store delivery system [LOTOP Project]
? HELIPLANE Ryan-Girard design with double-rotating triangular wings above and below
112VTO high altitude Visual Fighter proposal for US Navy derived from Model 84
113observation class airplane with VTOL capability
114RYANAV ground velocity indicator
115/Credesign of Model 112 to meet new AF requirements for VATOL dispersed site fighter-bomber
118ROGUE, no details, possibly an expandable powered target with Marquardt engine
120/ARYANAV integrated navigational and flight instrumentation systems
124FIREBEE (BQM-34, MQM-34 etc.)
136FIRE FLY. Proposed RPV with jet on top of fuselage [RED WAGON program]
143VERTIFAN. Research VTOL aircraft with lift-fans in wings (US Army XV-5A)
147FIREFLY (BQM-34A), LIGHTNING BUG, FIREBEE… (AQM-34) [COMBAT ANGEL, BUFFALO HUNTER...]
154FIREFLY (USAF AQM-91A) [project COMPASS ARROW]
161PARAGLIDER Flexible Wing Air Cargo Delivery System for US Army
164FLEEP Flexible Wing Aerial Utility Vehicle (US Army XV-8A)
166FIREBEE II (BQM-34E/F/T)
167VERTIFAN proposal for XV-5A V/STOL Operational Evaluation Aircraft
173fan-powered project; a 1/6-Scale Powered Model was tested at General Dynamics
177VERTIFAN (US Army XV-5B)
182lift-fan aircraft project
186Clift-fan aircraft project
187B,Clift-fan aircraft project
190Dproposal for F-104 Fan Design Study
204gas turbine? (unconfirmed)
207sink rate radar system (AN/APQ-135)
209Dtandem two-seat lift-fan VTOL aircraft, maybe a fighter
210B?possible designation of a large lift-fan passenger transport project (found as "Model 2108")
222Strike Escort Rescue Aircraft project
226lift fan transport project
230VERTIFAN rescue aircraft project derived from XV-5A for USAF's CARA requirement
232/Binternational export versions of BQM-34A
234/ASTRIKE FIREBEE Multi-Mission/Strike RPV (USAF BGM-34A/B) [HAVE LEMON program]
235TERN or "R-TERN" (USAF YQM-98A) [COMPASS COPE R program]
248BQM-SSM variant of BQM-34A
251FIREBEE US Army MQM-34D MOD II with J85 engine
255FIREBEE AQM-34V [COMBAT ANGEL program]
258FIREBRAND (US Navy (Z)BQM-111A)
259FIREBEE (BGM-34C…)
262MANTA RAY Ship Tactical Airborne RPV [STAR program]
268?stealth aircraft proposal (could also be a McDonnell Douglas designation)
272RPV (no details)
275ATERN, unbuilt production version (USAF GQM-98A)
303unmanned aircraft (no details)
305FIREBOLT High Altitude Supersonic Target, a production version of Beechcraft SANDPIPER (USAF AQM-81A/B/N) [HAST program]
314SEALITE modification of the Navy's BQM-34S
?SLAT "(YAQM-127A") contender, lost to Martin Marietta
320-XMRUV unmanned vehicle proposal
324SCARAB RPV designed with Scaled Composites; for Egyptian government
326rotorcraft-type mini-RPV in the shape of a Soviet Mil Mi-24
328mini-RPV, a development of XBQM-106A TELEPLANE
329SPIRIT twin-boom HALE design for USAF
336HATS High Altitude Target System Prototype Target, a modification of the Navy BQM-34S
350PEREGRINE (USAF Y/BQM-145A SPECTER) [UAV-MR]
352J69 engine
356J69 and J100 engines
357-1helicopter rotor-tip mounted engine
365LJ95 lift-jet (turbojet for lift-jet duties)
367GLOBAL HAWK (USAF RQ-4A) [Tier II+]
370J402 single-shaft turbojet designed specifically for the M-84 HARPOON missile
372variant of the J402 turbojet engine
373Model CAE 373-8 (J402-CA-702) jet engine
376scaled-down lift engine, no details
379FIRE SCOUT VTUAV prototype, former Schweizer Model SHU-40B (US Navy RQ-8A)
382turbofan engine for the Beechcraft MQM-107
395PROTEUS HUNTER-KILLER, a planned armed version of the Scaled 281
396GLOBAL HAWK HUNTER-KILLER, a planned 50% scale armed version of the RQ-4
397HUNTER II project based on the IAI Heron, but would use the ground control station of the existing HUNTER
410long-endurance UAV designed with Scaled Composites for civilian/military markets
422JPATS contender powered by two TFE109 turbines
440ATEGG (Advanced Turbine Engine Gas Generator) single-shaft core turbine engine
471-11DXturbofan engine used in YBGM-110A
472turbofan engine (F106)
490-2/3/4LARZAC two-shaft turbofan resulting from license agreement with Turbomeca-Snecma GRTS


SERIES 500, 600, 700 (Avionics, except*)

517radar altimeter and Doppler velocity sensor for spacecraft landing control operations
520High Altitude Radar Altimeter for the Saturn launch vehicle
523Doppler navigation set
529Squad Transceiver (Engineering Model) (1963)
533Doppler Velocity Sensor (AN/APN-193)
534Range Data Extraction Equipment (vehicle range extraction unit) (1964)
537Doppler navigation set
547Dopller Velocity Sensor (radar) for NASA'S LLTV (1966)
555*ATEGG turbine (single-shaft core) engine, variant of Model 440
602Aradar altimeter for NASA'S LLTV (1966)
602Bshort-pulse radar altimeter (US Army AN/APN-192)
610computer interface unit (1967)
622terrain-following radar (TFR)
70113.3 GHz scatterometer
?REDOP I 13.3 GHz scatterometer (different from Model 701)
7041.6 GHz scatterometer
720CCRS airborne scatterometer

Certainly needs a lot of improvement, but it's good enough a place to start, I guess...
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
Here is a very incomplete list of Ryan designations, but it's the best I came up with this far:

28 US Navy FR-1 FIREBALL
29 US Navy XF2R-1 DARKSHARK
59 jet trainer project
69 USAF X-13 VERTIJET
72 NAVION
92 US Army VZ-3-RY VERTIPLANE
124 BQM-34… FIREBEE
136 FIRE_FLY (RED WAGON)
143 US Army XV-5A VERTIFAN
147 AQM-34… FIREBEE…
154 AQM-91A FIREFLY (COMPASS ARROW)
164 US Army XV-8A FLEEP
166 BQM-34E/F/T FIREBEE II
177 US Army XV-5B VERTIFAN
182 lift-fan aircraft project
186C lift-fan aircraft project
187B lift-fan aircraft project
205 NAVION 205 (possible designator)
232 no details
234 USAF BGM-34A/B FIREBEE Multi-Mission/Strike
235 YQM-98A R-TERN (COMPASS COPE R)
248 BQM-SSM
251 US Army MQM-34D MOD II FIREBEE with J85 engine
255 AQM-34V FIREBEE (COMBAT ANGEL)
258 (Z)BQM-111A FIREBRAND
259 BGM-34C FIREBEE …
260 NAVION 260 (possible designator)
262 MANTA RAY (STAR = Ship Tactical Airborne) (1975-77)
275 GQM-98A
305 AQM-81A/N FIREBOLT
314 SEALITE
320 YAQM-127A (SLAT)
324 SCARAB
328 XBQM-106 dvpt.
336 HATS
350 USAF (Y)BQM-145A PEREGRINE (UAV-MR)
352 J69 engine
356 J69 and J100 engines
367 USAF RQ-4A GLOBAL HAWK (Tier II+)
370 J402 engine
373 jet engine
379 US Navy RQ-8A FIRE SCOUT
395 PROTEUS HUNTER-KILLER
396 GLOBAL HAWK HUNTER-KILLER
410 UAV
472 F106 engine
490 LARZAC engine
523 Doppler navigator

Certainly needs a lot of improvement, but it's good enough a place to start, I guess... ;)

Here are some pics of the US Army XV-5B I found:
 

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One for the list.....

Model 161 'Flexible Wing Air Cargo Delivery System'


http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA318114 Page 49


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Very interesting! Didn't know about that one... Came even before the Flex-Wing, Fleep, Flex Flyer and Flex-Bee programs!
 

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Hi,

the Type-272 and Type-1241 were RPV,and the 1241 was developed from
124,and the Types 365,372,440/555 and 471 were engines.
 

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My dear Stargazer2006,

the sources were Jane's all the world's aircraft,various editions,and
I have not a scanner,but I will get to you some more info;


365 turbojet for lift-jet duties,about 20 variants.
372 turbojet engine
440 turbine engine
555 turbine engine
471 turbofan engine
 

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Thanks a lot Hesham, but I was particularly talking about the Models 272 and 1241 RPVs, which I don't think I have heard about. Also, is it the Model 550 or 555? You called it two different names!
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
Thanks a lot Hesham, but I was particularly talking about the Models 272 and 1241 RPVs, which I don't think I have heard about.
1241 is most likely a typo for 124I.
 

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Yes, Andreas, you're right! I remember that 124I DOES exist, and 1241 didn't seem too logical in the Ryan system. So it most definitely was a typo. As for Model 272, I'm still waiting for some confirmation, as there is a Model 262 and a Model 275 and it could also be a typo...
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
Thanks a lot Hesham, but I was particularly talking about the Models 272 and 1241 RPVs, which I don't think I have heard about. Also, is it the Model 550 or 555? You called it two different names!

Yes my dear Stargazer2006,

you are right I will fix it,and by the way those engines were pistons or turboprops
developed with Continental company,as O-200,IO-240,IOL-300,O-360,O-470,
IO-520 and IO-555.
 

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From the Spangenberg Index, courtesy of RyanCrierie:

- Model 73 observation aircraft proposal for US Navy
- Model 112 VTO high altitude visual fighter proposal
- Model 113 observation class airplane with VTOL capability
 

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Model 49 - KDA-1 and XM21 Firebee (J-44 engine)
Model 61 - Q-2A Firebee (J-69 engine)
 

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Model 49 - KDA-1 and XM21 Firebee (J-44 engine)
Model 61 - Q-2A Firebee (J-69 engine)

Excellent! Where did you find these? I've got Wagner's book on drones but these are not even in it!!
 

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Model 84 preliminary VTO Light Day Fighter design deriving from a broad study of a number of different configurations.
Model 84F-7, a turbofan version of 84
Model 112 VTO high altitude visual fighter proposal for Navy derived from Model 84
Model 115 and Model 115C redesigns of the Model 112 to meet new Air Force requirements for a Dispersed Site Fighter-Bomber.

All used various versions of the General Electric engines (J-79 and others with afterburning (A/B)) then under development. Models 84 (and 84F-7) and 115 were generated under Air Force contract; Ryan used their own funds for the 112 and 115C design work.

Source: V/STOL Concepts and Developed Aircraft. Volume 1. A Historical Report (1940-1986)

http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA175379
 

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Hi,


Model 209D was tandem two-seat lift-fan VTOL aircraft,may be a fighter.
 

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I found those in DTIC reports;




88 was a monoplane and biplane-type apparatus for deflecting a propeller slipstream
through large angles.




http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/AD0103086




Teledyne Ryan 622
Terrain-Following Radar System Installed on an OH-58A Helicopter.


http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/AD0775806
 

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From the Bernard Lindenbaum Vertical Flight Research Collection:

88...............monoplane- and biplane-type apparatus (Direct Ascent Aircraft) for deflecting a propeller slipstream through large angles (1956)
167.............planning proposal for XV-5A V/STOL Operational Evaluation Aircraft (1962)
190D...........proposal for F-104 Fan Design Study (1965)
222.............Strike Escort Rescue Aircraft project (1966)
nd...............VERTIWING, no details (1963)
 

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hesham said:
Model 209D was tandem two-seat lift-fan VTOL aircraft,may be a fighter.

Here is a picture of the Ryan 209D:
 

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Boxman, thanks to your help I was able to start a topic on those little-known Ryan UAVs. It can be seen here:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14318.0.html
 

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I have at long last updated the designations list in the first page of this topic: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1680.msg64857.html#msg64857

Included are also designations which relate to avionics, engines and various equipment as they are included in the sequential numeral order.

Any additions or corrections will be included! ;)

As a bonus I include three posters released by Teledyne Ryan in the 1970s and 1980s and depicting most of their RPVs and UAVs at the time:
 

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Model 36 - XAAM-1 Firebird (experimental air-to-air missile).
 

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Model 39: afterburner used on the Lockheed XP-80A.
 

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Browsing through old Ryan company publications, it becomes clear that the Model 29 (XF2R-1) and Model 30 (XF2R-2) were originally simply called FIREBALL by Ryan. When the words "dark shark" were mentioned they were affixed to it as follows: "DARK SHARK FIREBALL," not on their own. It's only in 1947 that the name seems to have been "adopted" by Ryan themselves.

On a slightly different — though related — note, here's the Ryan TR-1. Never heard of it? Well, here's what Ryan writer and later historian Bill Wagner wrote about it in 1946 news releases for the company:

WORKERS COMPLETE EXACT MODEL OF RYAN FIREBALL JET FIGHTER FOR SAN DIEGO ROSE PARADE FLOAT

The half-scale model of the Ryan jet-pushed, propeller-pulled Fireball fighter, which will surmount San Diego' s float in the Tournament of Roses Parade, attracted so much attention at the aircraft plant that five pretty Ryan secretaries, without too much urging, found themselves in front of the camera in various poses when the photographer showed up to take pictures before the wooden model was shipped off to Pasadena.

It took just a mite of a "glamor girl," 5-year old Suzanne Reamo, to christen the half-scale model of the Ryan Fireball jet-pushed, propeller-pulled Navy fighter which, covered with flowers, will be the center of attraction of San Diego's float in the Tournament of Roses Parade in Pasadena on New Year's Day.

On hand to represent the Navy at the christening was Lieut. Comdr. R. O. Deitzer, Bureau of Aeronautics Representative at the Ryan Aeronautical Company plant. Ryan workers who built the float have dubbed the half-scale model of the Navy FR-1 fighter, the "TR-I" for "Tournament of Roses, Model 1." Construction of the model was completed this week and it is now in Pasadena where the balance of the float is being built.

Built so that it will turn and dip, the Fireball model plane will be mounted above and behind the sloping bed of red, white and blue flowers forming a Stars and Stripes pattern in front of which will ride aviation heroes of the Army, Navy and Marine Corps. The flower-covered propeller will turn, and from the tail will come the tell-tale smoke of the parent
Fireball's jet engine.

Named "Winged Victory" the float is sponsored jointly by San Diego City and County, the San Diego-California Club and the Junior Chamber of Commerce. It is expected that most of the flowers for the float will be obtained from florists and nurserymen in the Carlsbad-Encinitas area.

This flower-bedecked Ryan Fireball Navy fighter, with jet exhaust streaming from its tail, propeller spinning, and the entire plane gracefully dipping and turning, was the official entry of San Diego City and County in Pasadena's famous New Year's Lay Tournament of Roses Parade, capturing second prize in Class A.

Under regulations governing the Rose Parade every portion of the float which can be seen by spectators must be completely covered with flowers. The half-scale Fireball model was built by the mock-up section of Ryan's experimental department. The night before the parade it was mounted onto the lower section of the float, built in Pasadena; then completely covered with chrysanthemum buds laid over hot glue. The insignia design, propeller tips and other details were worked out in blue delphinium.

Unfortunately, the photos from the original news releases are not available, but I've managed to locate this beautiful photo below from Flickr:
 

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First picture in color so far.
1-125 Ryan Planes - Model-29 (XF2R-1) (Crop)
Image from the Ryan Aeronautical Negative Collection
Repository: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive

Attached picture just in 640 by 501 pixels and not edited.
Larger picture at San Diego Air & Space Museum Archives, posted there on 15th February 2013.
Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/8477554812/
 

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Model 34 - single-seat monoplane project

Regards

You really should have a illustration or two to go with that...
 

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Tailspin, you know what? You've really made my day today!!!

Again my deepest thanks...
 

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My dear Tailspin,


no words can describe how I am happy with your membership in this site,many
many great thanks.
 

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Here is a cleaned-up/enhanced version of the Model 34 brochure's cover:
 

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Hi,

for Ryan aircraft;

26 was a gull-wing dive bomber/attack aircraft for US Navy

27 was preliminary interceptor fighter projects of 1942,27A was for US Navy and
27B & 27C were for USAAF.
 

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Model 275 WT tests

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhTi-bAlvgQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl0pzBQaMAw
 

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