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They are. First is the what-if J-XX design and the second is the render from Jozef Gatial that was based on the Paralay's early line drawing of the T-50 PAK FA.
 

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Hi,

was this a real Lockheed ATF design ?.
 

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Fake. I knew that I have it somewhere and it is the rear cover of the Stealth Airplanes (from Osprey Publishing).
 

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Reminds me of the plane on the cover of Stephen Coontz's novel The Minotaur.
 

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hesham said:
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was this a real Lockheed ATF design ?.
I don't know about Lockheed, but it's not too far off one of the winnowed-oout alternate Northrop ATF concepts that used their experience with vortex shaping and control.
 

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To be honest,

I don't remember if we displayed this very large aircraft before or
not,but I am asking;is that a real aircraft design ?.
 

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hesham said:
is that a real aircraft design ?.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1292.15.html
 

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Thank you my dears Tophe and Fateric very much,

and here is anther Russian Ekranoplane,is it real or not ?.
 

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hesham said:
Thank you my dears Tophe and Fateric very much,

and here is anther Russian Ekranoplane,is it real or not ?.
This showed up in Popular Mechanics quite a while back. Possibly proposed, but likely just speculative art by an on-staff artist. I believe the text said this was intended for hauling cargo across the flat siberian tundra, which is functionally similar to an ocean surface, just with more obstacles like trees to avoid. Supposedly a mast mounted radar would help with that, along with pre-surveyed routes.
 

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Hi,

was this a real aircraft project for Raymond Loewy or not ?.
 

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Hmm... Raymond Loewy was a Colani of sorts. A designer by profession, capable of making the imagination soar by the unique shape of his creations (from trains to cigarette packages), but Loewy was no engineer, and this would-be airliner doesn't look like it would fly very well. Probably more an exercise in style than a real design submission...
 
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Hmm... Raymond Loewy was a Colani of sorts. A designer by profession, capable of making the imagination soar by the unique shape of his creations (from trains to cigarette packages), but Loewy was no engineer, and this would-be airliner doesn't look like it would fly very well. Probably more an exercise in style than a real design submission...
Actually Loewy trained as an engineer as a young man in France.
Also industrial design inherently involves engineering.

The airplane was just one of the many background pieces done for the Loewy designed Chrysler Motors Building
at the 1939 New York World's Fair, the theme of which was Building the World of Tomorrow.
 

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Oops, thanks for correcting me on that! I knew Loewy was originally from my country, but I had no idea he had been trained as an engineer before turning to industrial design.
 

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For aircraft, Loewy was probably best know for interior design -- eg: Howard Hughes' 307 Stratoliner and the original, B707 Air Force 1.
 
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For aircraft, Loewy was probably best know for interior design -- eg: Howard Hughes' 307 Stratoliner and the original, B707 Air Force 1.
Don't forget the Lockheed Constellation and Air France Concorde. ;)
 

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Hi,

is this a real fighter or not ?,it is in SAAB 2107 topic here;

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=91659
 

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hesham said:
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is this a real fighter or not ?,it is in SAAB 2107 topic here;

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=91659
It's real to my knowledge, the guy who designed it got interviewed by periodical Ny Teknik here. He said he couldn't defend his design because he was sick and unable to attend at the meeting IIRC. I've forgotten the link, I'll see if I can find it.
 

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Here it is, hope you understand Swedish ;) :

http://www.nyteknik.se/popular_teknik/smatt_gott/article370997.ece

"Örnen" means "The Eagle". Torsten Örnberg is the designer. He couldn't join the decision making due to gallstones.
 

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Hi,

I read in Internet that the SNCAC NC.1090 was carrier-based single
seat fighter project,I don't know if this aircraft was real or fake,and
may be it was misprint ?.
 

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:eek: OmG. Mr. Mustang & Mrs. Corsair had kids... ;D
 

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Tophe? Tophe? Where are you? There's a new offspring in the larger P-51 family for you!
 

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I'm here, while I knew this marvel, already presented somewhere (what-if board?). Congratulations anyway to the designer/computer-handler... ;D
 

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Speaking of radiacal Mustang variants... how much truth is in this forward-swept wing one? I've always found it highly suspect!
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2397.0
 

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I knew this one too. But I am only interested in shapes, not in Truth. I am a what-ifer, the first book I ever wrote was entitled "against Reality"...
 

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Hi,

is this a real UAV or fake ?.

http://img408.imageshack.us/i/610xumg.jpg/
 

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this was BAe Systems concept AFAIR
 

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Thanks for directing me, now I remember. Its this: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/UKUAV110909.xml
 

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Hi,

was this a real spacecraft or not ?.

http://books.google.com/books?id=rk1Sivcwyc4C&pg=PA184&dq=spaceplane&hl=ar&ei=NxolTIuFK8uTjAeC7O1t&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=spaceplane&f=true
 

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hesham said:
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was this a real spacecraft or not ?.
http://books.google.com/books?id=rk1Sivcwyc4C&pg=PA184&dq=spaceplane&hl=ar&ei=NxolTIuFK8uTjAeC7O1t&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=spaceplane&f=true
In January 1954, Walt Disney visited Wernher von Braun (holding XR-1 model) at the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama, where von Braun was the Chief of Guided Missile Development for the Army Ballistic Missile Agency (ABMA). Von Braun appeared in three episodes of Disney’s TV series about space exploration.
PHOTO: NASA
Source: http://www.german-way.com/famous-wernher-von-braun.html
See also the topic "Von Braun's Ferry Rocket of 1952".
 

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Hi,

here is a design for Alex Tremulis,I don't know if it was a real
torpedo boat design or fake ?.

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=rwAAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA4&dq=ram-wing&hl=ar&ei=auYjTJ-NBsfKjAft2JlJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=ram-wing&f=true
 

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