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Northrop-EADS wins U.S. Air Force tanker, beats Boeing

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Northrop-EADS wins U.S. Air Force tanker, beats Boeing
Feb. 29, 2008 • An international consortium led by U.S. giant Northrop Grumman and European conglomerate EADS has won the U.S. Air Force’s competition for the next fleet of new aerial refueling aircraft, officials announced late Feb. 29. The winners beat U.S. contracting behemoth Boeing, which had been expected in some circles to win the award. The much-awaited and delayed decision, which could set off a round of contracting bid protests, comes after a heated competition between the defense industry giants and that touched on everything from a previous Boeing tanker scandal to world trade subsidies and Buy American issues.

Source: Aviation Week & Space Technology, 02/18/2008.

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Should make it easier to sell the BWB as the tanker in the next round a decade or two in the future.
 

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Sorry for being offtopic, but this has been heatedly discussed ever since it became public. Many americans are angry that the US is sending money and jobs overseas and they think the decision should be reversed and 767 made the winner. Some Europeans are jubilant that "their" aircraft won.
But I have rarely seen the Europeans being worried that they are actually subsidizing American military tankers this way and selling too cheaply. (Since Airbus receives subsidies.) That's one way to think of it and maybe could make some Americans happier too - the US air force is taking advantage of those sucker governments that want to build jets. ;) :-[
 

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I have a hunch, that the last words still aren't spoken !
It's a little bit careless to believe in this contract, I think, until the
aircraft are delivered.
 

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mz said:
But I have rarely seen the Europeans being worried that they are actually subsidizing American military tankers this way and selling too cheaply. (Since Airbus receives subsidies.) That's one way to think of it and maybe could make some Americans happier too - the US air force is taking advantage of those sucker governments that want to build jets. ;) :-[

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FrenchJobsLostByWinningTankerContract_197280-1.html

Not everyone associated with the EADS/Northrop-Grumman victory in the Air Force tanker contract is celebrating. The union representing workers at EADS Toulouse factories claims the deal will cost French jobs because of the consortium’s commitment to build an assembly plant for the tankers in Mobile, Ala. In 2006, EADS agreed to build a plant in China to win contracts there and the CFDT union claims that’s chipping away at the French workforce. British unions are hailing the contract saying it will secure thousands of jobs in plants that build major structures like wings. And, of course, Mobile couldn’t be happier about the decision.
 
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http://www.spacewar.com/reports/USAF_Evaluation_Found_Boeing_Tanker_More_Capable_Survivable_For_Flight_Crews_999.html

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Model of Northrop Grumman KC-30 Advanced Tanker (designated the KC-45A by the United States Air Force) found on eBay.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Northrup-Grumman-KC-30-Advanced-Tanker-Desktop-Model-/261111046441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccb6e6129
 

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Hi,

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a493824.pdf
 

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https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2018-12-04-Lockheed-Martin-and-Airbus-Sign-Memorandum-of-Agreement-on-Aerial-Refueling

Short version:
  • Exploring potential to provide A330/KC-45 capability to address shortfalls in US tanker capacity
  • Collaboration on a future survivable tanker
Not sure whether item 1 is a Hail Mary pass, or a more thoughtful strategy capitalizing on government-wide dissatisfaction with Boeing regarding its performance on the KC-46 program. May I remind the committee that the big old Airbus plant in Mobile, Alabama was originally configured to produce the KC-45.

As the great thinker Arte Johnson used to say, "verry interesting".
 

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[Looked at opportunities] may range from ways to support critical near-term air-refueling needs, such as a fee-for-service structure to conceptualizing the tanker of the future.
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"Airbus is an industry leader in the aerial refueling area, and Lockheed Martin is known for cutting-edge defensive technologies and capabilities," said Michele Evans, executive vice president, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics. "This is a great opportunity for our two companies to combine our expertise – cooperating to develop world-class solutions for critical needs around the world."
 

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