Messerschmitt aircraft M-17 to M-37

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Hi,

I don't know the earlier aircraft to Messerschmitt,except S.5,S.8,S.10,S.14,
and S.15 gliders and S.16 motor glider aircraft.
M-17 :two seat high wing light sport aircraft,powered by one Bristol Cherul II
engine.
M-18 :single engined high wing light transport aircraft,powered by one110 hp
Siemens-Halske Sh.12 radial engine.
M-19 :was single seat low wing light formula aircraft.
 

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M-20 :10 passenger high wing transport aircraft,powered by
one 500 hp BMW VIa inline piston engine.
M-21 :two seat trainer biplane,powered by one 96 hp Siemens
SL.11 or one 125 hp Siemens Sh.12 radial engine.
M-22 :three seat twin engined biplane bomber,powered by two
500 hp Bristol Jupiters.
 

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M-23 :two seat low wing light monoplane,powered by one
110 hp Cirrus Hermes III inline piston engine.
M-24 :eight passenger high wing monoplane a smaller development
of M-20 with 280 hp Junkers Jumo inline engine.
M-25 :light monoplane,project only.no detail.
M-26 :high wing three seat cabin monoplane,a scale-down version
of M-18 with 100 hp Siemens SL.11 radial engine.
 

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M-27 :two seat open cockpit low wing monoplane,developed from M-23,powered
by one 120 hp Argus As8 engine.
M-28 :single engined low wing mailplane for Lufthansa, with 525 hp BMW Hornet
engine.
M-29 :two seat low wing racer monoplane,powered by 150 hp Siemens SL.14a
radial engine.
 

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M-30 :all metal version of M-26 three seat cabin monoplane,
powered by 175 hp Wright Whirlwind engine.
M-31 :two seat low wing monoplane, powered by one 60 hp
BMW Xa radial engine.
M-32 Project for two seat single engined biplane trainer.
M-33 :ulta-light parasol wing single seat monoplnae,powered
by one 15 hp DKW engine.
 

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M-34 :not known to me.
M-35 :single/two seat low wing trainer and sport monoplane,
powered by one 135 hp Argus As 86 inline engine.
M-36 :single engined six passenger high wing light transport
monoplane,powered by one 380 hp Armstrong-Siddeley
Serval radial engine.
M-37 :single engined low wing high performance cabin monoplane
of all metal construction,later redesigned as BF.108.
 

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M 32 project only,became later the He 72 !
M 34 :project only " antipode plane "
(20 000 km range )
 
thanks dear richard,

if anyone has an addtions please go head.
 
My list is much the same but (I hope with a few useful details added).
 
Messerschmitt S and M Series Designations (Prior to RLM 8-Series)

Harth-Messerschmitt S (Segelflugzeuge) Designations

Friedrich Harth (1880-1936) Designs

S 1 -- [Harth only] 1909 experimental biplane canard glider, prone pilot, 1 built
S 2 -- [??]

Friedrich Harth-Willy Messerschmitt Joint Designs

S 3 -- 1914 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat glider, 1 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-03, aka S.3
S 4 -- 1914 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat glider, 1 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-04, aka S.4
S 5 -- 1917 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat glider, 1 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-05, aka S.5
S 6 -- 1916 high-winged (upper cabane), wing-warping open-frame glider, 1 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-06, aka S.6
S 7 -- 1918 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat glider, 1 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-07, aka S.7
S 8 -- 1921 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat glider, 1 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-08, aka S.8, Eindecker S VIII
S 9 -- 1921 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat glider, ? built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-09, aka S.9

Segelflugzeugbau Harth-Messerschmitt Designs - 1922-25

S 10 - 1922 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat training glider
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-10, aka S.10, 14m span
S 11 - 1922 high-winged, wing-warping open-frame, 1-seat training glider
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-11, aka S.11, 14m span
S 12 - 1922 experimental parasol-monoplane glider, 14m span, 1 built
-- S 12 wing basically cantilever (tiny struts), led to S 14 and S 15
S 13 - 1923 high-winged, enclosed-fuselage 1-seat sailplane, 1 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-13, aka S.13, 14m span
S 14 - 1923 S 13 development with canilever wing, 14m span, 2 built
-- aka Harth-Messerschmitt S-14, aka S.14, 14m span
S 15 - 1923 motor glider, 1 x 10 hp Victoria (repl. by 14 hp Douglas)
-- considered a powered development of the S 14, wheels repl. skids
S 16 - Bubi, 1924 2-seat (tandem) light aircraft, 1 x 24 hp Douglas Sprite
- S 16b: second a/c. Sim. to S 15 but with higher pedestal for wing
-- first design entirely by Messerschmitt, Harth leaves firm in 1923

Messerschmitt Flugzeugbau - Messerschmitt Flugzeugbau GmbH - 1925-27

M 17 - Ello, 1925 2-seat (tandem) light aircraft, 1 x 32 hp Bristol Cherub III
-- reduced-scale S 16, options: 24 hp Douglas Sprite or ABC Scorpion, 8 built
M 18 - 1926 monoplane (high, cantilever) cabin airliner, 26 built
- M 18: prototype, wooden const., 80 hp Siemens Sh 11 7-cyl radial
-- Prototype remained unregistered, 1 pilot (open cockpit) + 3 pax
- M 18a: series, metal const. (fab. wing), 80 hp Sh 11, 2 built
- M 18b: series, as M 18a except 110 hp Siemens Sh 12, 12 built
-- NB: later aircraft could carry 4 pax but retained 'b designation
- M 18c: photographic aircraft, 220 hp A-S Lynx radial, 3 built
- M 18d: enclosed cockpit, 8 pax 1 x 150 hp Walter Mars or 225 hp Lynx
- M 18d floatplane: rec'd no special designation, 325 hp Wright Whirlwind
-- NB: M 18d had either M 18b-style short u/c or M 18c-style long u/c legs


Merged with State-owned Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (BFW) - 1927

M 19 - 1927 ultralight low-wing 1-seat monoplane, 24 hp ABC Scorpion, 2 built
M 20 - 1928 monoplane cabin airliner, 1 pilot + 10 pax, 15 built, aka BFW M 20
-- Essentially a BMW VI V12-powered development of the M 18d
- M 20: prototype 1 x 500 hp BMW VI crashed on maiden take-off, 26 Feb 1928
- M 20a: series, 1 x 500 hp BMW VIa or BMW VI Zu, 2 built
-- 10 M 20a ordered by Deutsche Lufthansa, canc. after crash of prototype
- M 20b: series, revised M 20a with aerodynamic & structural improvements
- M 20b2: 10 x M20b re-engined with 640 hp BMW VIu, aka M 20b-2
M 21 - 1928 2-seat training biplane (to replace Udet U-12 Flamingos), 2 built
- M 21a: first prototype, 1 x 80 hp Siemens Sh 11
- M 21b: second prototype, 1 x 100 hp Siemens Sh 12
-- M 21 trials were successful but no series production
M 22 - 1930 biplane, 3-seat recce bomber, 2 x 500 hp Siemens Jupiters, 1 built
-- aka BFW M 22 or Bf 22, originally conceived as a multiplace night fighter
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12329.0
M 23 - 1928 2-seat low-winged monoplane sport aircraft, M 19 deriv., 100+ built
- M 23a: 38 hp ABC Scorpion 2-cyl or 45 hp Salmson 9Adb 9-cyl radial, [?] built
- M 23b: around 53 built (+ 14 in Rumania) with a wide range of engine choices
-- 50 hp BMW X, 82 hp Sh 13, 86 hp A-S Genet, 95 hp ADC Cirrus III, 115 hp ADC Cirrus Hermes, or 115 hp Siemens Sh 14
- M 23b floatplane: Sh 13, taller tailplane, no special designation assigned
- M 23c: refined lines, cockpit enclosed with perspex canopy, about 11 built
-- M23c engine choices: 110 hp Argus As 8 4-cyl or 150 hp Sh 14a radial
- ICAR Universal: 1934 Rum. 1-seat M 23b derivative, record a/c, 1 built
- ICAR Universal Acrobatic: 1934 Rum. 1-seat M 23b derivative, 12.9m span, 3 built
-- Universal & Universal Acrobatic powered by 1 x 150 hp Siemens-Halske Sh 14a
- ICAR Universal Biloc: 1935 Rum. 2-seat M 23b derivative, 12.9m span, 10 built
-- Universal Biloc trainers powered by 130 hp IAR 4GI (licenced DH Gipsy Major)
M 24 - 1928 high-wing monoplane cabin airliner (scaled-down M 20), 8 pax, 5[?] built
- M 24a: 280 hp Junkers L5 (D-1767) or 320 hp BMW Va (D-1853), 2 built
- M 24b: 525 hp BMW Hornet (floatplane version not given specific designation)
-- M 24b variant with 500 hp Siemens Jupiter may not have been complete
M 25 - [Project] light monoplane (designed for Ernst Udet)
M 26 - 1930 high-wing cabin monoplane, 2-3 pax, 1 x 100 hp Siemens Sh 11, 1 built
-- Scaled-down M 18, unbuilt metal derivative designated M 30
M 27 - 1930 low-wing sports monoplane, open-cockpit 2-seater, M 23c deriv.
- M 27a: 110 hp Siemens Sh 12 radial, short rounded vertical tail, 1 built
- M.27b: 120 hp Argus As 8 4-cyl inline, taller rounded tail, 1 built
M 28 - 1930 low-wing metal mailplane, 1 x 525 hp BMW Hornet, 2 built
-- For Reichsluftfahrtministerium, to Lufthansa 1932-35, returned to RLM
M 29 - 1932 low-wing monoplane racer (Circuit of Europe, enclosed two-seater
- M 29a: 150 hp Siemens Sh 14a radial, 2 built
- M 29b: 150 hp Argus As 8R 4-cyl inline, 3 built
-- M 29 failed due to all-moving tail, 2 fatal crashes, repl. by He 64
M 30 - [Project] 1931 all metal version of M 26 three-seat cabin monoplane,
-- intended M 30 powerplant, 1 x 175 hp Wright Whirlwind radial
M 31 - 1932 light low-wing sports monoplane, open 2-seater, 60 hp BMW Xa
-- competitive light aircraft, reduced-scale dev. of M 19, M 23, M 27 line
M 32 - [Project] 1932 2-seat biplane military primary trainer, devised for RVM
-- 5 part-completed airframes, taken over as He 72 (see Richard B, below)
M 33 - [Project] ulta-light parasol-wing single-seat monoplane, 15 hp DKW
-- 'Volksflugzeug', underslung fuselage pod with engine, mockup only
M 34 - [Project] 1934 record aircraft (Antipodenflugzeug), 20,000 km range
M 35 - 1933 low-wing sport monoplane, 1- or 2-seater dev. of M 31
- M 35a: 1 x 150 hp Siemens Sh 14a 7-cyl radial, 2 built
- M 35b: 1 x 135 hp Argus As 8b 4-cyl inline, 12 built
- M 35c: 1 x 225 hp Argus As 17a 6-cyl inline, Wk.Nr. 622 (completed?)
-- aka BFW 35, aka BFMW M 35
M 36 - single engined 2 + 6 passenger high wing light transport, 1 built
- M 36: planned with 380 hp Gnome-Rhône Jupiter 9Aa 9-cyl, not built
- ICAR 36: M 36 as built by Interprindere Constructii Aeronautice Romane
-- as built, 1 x 380 hp Armstrong Siddeley Serval 10-cyl 2-row radial
-- aka BFW M.36, ICAR 36, ICAR M 36, ICAR M 36, or IAR 36
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,836.msg7015.html#msg7015
M 37 - high performance monoplane for 1934 Challenge de Tourism Internationale
-- redesignated 8-108 by RLM, built and marketed as the Bf 108 series

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Apophenia said:
My list is much the same but (I hope with a few useful details added). BTW, the M 32 project obviously didn't become the He 72. Rather the M 32 was designed to the same RVM specification as Heinkel's built He 72 Kadett series.

The P 1020 was the M 32 . and was designed by Paul.J Hall . He left BFW and went to Heinkel where he proceeded with the design ...as the He 72 .
 
Interesting Richard. Thanks for the correction/clarification. (I've removed my erroneous statement to avoid future confusion.)

So, Oberingenieur Paul J. Hall goes from Dietrich-Gobiet (eg: DP XI) to Raab-Katzenstein (eg: RK 2 Pelican) to BFW (eg: P 1020/M 32) to Heinkel (eg: He 72)?

I saw a date of 1929 for Hall's move to BFW. But also a suggestion that his involvement with Heinkel dates back to when he was designing for RaKa. Any idea if the latter is accurate?
 
Hello

The story is told in the "Willy Messerschmitt-Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues" by Ebert,Kaiser,Peters. (Bernard&Graefe Verlag ) ,as it seems to have been told by Paul J. Hall himself.
Parts for Five M 32 were built at BFW before BFW bankruptcy in 1931.
Hall came to Heinkel where he designed the He72 on the basis of the M 32 . Heinkel offered him a BMW car for it's work ...
I hope my traduction is right (German to English via French ;D )
Cheers
Richard
 
Fascinating story Richard. Thanks. A little ironic that Hall's move to Heinkel was rewarded with a Bavarian-built car :)
 

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