W. B. Herbst, McDonnell Douglas and CADE

[Mike Pryce]

According to the report, Herbst was in charge of the MBB TKF-90 work and was hence jointly responsible for the PIKT study which was investigating key technologies for what the report dubs "NATO-90". MBB's team contributed their TKF-90 work, MDC their Model 265 work.

Of course, Herbst was no stranger to MDC having worked there on the FX (F-15) program from 1966-1970.

Paul, is there anything on Herbst's work from 66-70 published, apart from the computer design papers with Ross?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

According to the report, Herbst was in charge of the MBB TKF-90 work and was hence jointly responsible for the PIKT study which was investigating key technologies for what the report dubs "NATO-90". MBB's team contributed their TKF-90 work, MDC their Model 265 work.

Of course, Herbst was no stranger to MDC having worked there on the FX (F-15) program from 1966-1970.

Paul, is there anything on Herbst's work from 66-70 published, apart from the computer design papers with Ross?

His work was in design synthesis using computer optimisation, initially looking at weight.

1968 Hypothesis on Weight Growth During the Development Stage of Aircraft

686. Hypothesis on Weight Growth During the Development Stage of Aircraft | Society of Allied Weight Engineers

www.sawe.org

1969 Relation Between Design Iterations and Growth Factors of Fighter Aircraft

732. Relation Between Design Iterations and Growth Factors of Fighter Aircraft | Society of Allied Weight Engineers

www.sawe.org

Herbst, W.B. and Ross, H.G. (1969) “The Systems Approach to Systems Engineering”

1970


In 1975 he was working on Maglev trains for MBB

1059. Weight and Performance Characteristics of Magnetically Suspended High-Speed Trains as Compared to Aircraft | Society of Allied Weight Engineers

www.sawe.org

 

[Mike Pryce]

Thanks Paul. So tools in support of F-15 rather than the plane itself?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Thanks Paul. So tools in support of F-15 rather than the plane itself?

I wouldn't say just tools. He was involved in the early parametric design trade studies carried out using the CADE program which was specifically designed for the FX program. Whether he was the programmer for CADE, probably not?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Nice 1971 article showing CADE.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

rest of article

 

[Mike Pryce]

Great stuff Paul, thanks. Almost expect the original 1977 Death Star plans to appear on those screens!

Do any of Herbst's weights papers mention his F-15 work at all? I have his one with Ross.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

No idea - i haven't read them.