This one !?! ... the first is this supposed advanced version ... and the second and third - I think "one step back" - the suggested F-15U with a new wing which could be re-installed !elmayerle said:I've seen various designations for this variant, but Deino posted an artist conception out of Flight and a top view over on another forum.
Air International April 1976The F-15 Eagle will be able to carry the 30mm rotary barrel General Electric GAU-8/A cannon for ground attack in the wing root in place of the current General Electric M61, in a centreline pod or in the conformal fuselage pallets. If the wing root position is adopted, the GAU-8/A linear ammunition feed will be changed to belt feed in order to utilise the existing ammunition bays.
Only munition...Dronte said:Does somebody have a picture of the gun originally foreseen for the F-15, the GAU7, that it used caseless ammunition?
I could swear I've seen pictures of them testing something like that with an F-101 VooDoo of all things.Matej said:STOL?? Here is the way how to start.... ;D
Anybody remember telescopic ammunition that was suppose to be the next big thing back in the late 80's?Matej said:Only munition...Dronte said:Does somebody have a picture of the gun originally foreseen for the F-15, the GAU7, that it used caseless ammunition?
Not all telescoping munitions are caseless, right? At least from the caseless standpoint there were problems with clearing out gun jams (since I think the breech is sealed) and there were issues with heat transfer during rapid fire (a normal gun the heat is removed via the spent casing).sferrin said:Matej said:Only munition...Dronte said:Does somebody have a picture of the gun originally foreseen for the F-15, the GAU7, that it used caseless ammunition?
Anybody remember telescopic ammunition that was suppose to be the next big thing back in the late 80's?
Single seater with wingtip missile launchers and an extended wing span?Sundog said:Here's the F-15XX
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The simpliest as it can be written - In MDD were lazy people that didnt want to design ATF, so they proposed this super improved F-15 as an alternative.TinWing said:What is the vintage of this proposal? Any details?
I don't think it was lazy, afterall money is money. I think it was a couple of things. First off with stealth being important that put them at a significant disadvantage. Secondly the F-15 is business they already had so why not work to keep it? Third the ATF program was by no means a sure thing after the Soviet Union collapsed. I mean even with the world being what it is today the USAF is having to fight tooth and nail just to get 180 F-22s. Another thing to consider is that if that drawing dates from AFTER the ATF down select (and I would be surprised if it doesn't) it could be McD trying to get business back. I've NEVER heard of a company not wanting to pursue a program out of LAZINESS. If anything they go to the customer trying to interest them in programs.Matej said:The simpliest as it can be written - In MDD were lazy people that didnt want to design ATF, so they proposed this super improved F-15 as an alternative.TinWing said:What is the vintage of this proposal? Any details?
PleaseI'll see if I can scan those photos later this week.