MAI "Sokol" VTOL Fighter, 1936

[hesham]

Hi,

Yur'ev VTOL fighter project;

 

[RP1]

Yur'ev VTOL fighter project

OK. This is so much my priority CGI modelling project now. Do you have any more information - specifically dimensions?

RP1

 

[hesham]

Hi RP1,

I have not any more information about that Yur'ev project,only it was
designed between 1935/1936 and the span 4m,length 9.3m and estimated
speed 527 km/h,the last it had a tilt wing.

 

[RP1]

Thanks, I can work with that - with two dimensions I can get the drawing scaled correctly (they are almost always distorted slightly - I have no idea why) and model the 'plane.

RP1

 

[cluttonfred]

I stumbled across Richard Pawling's site and his beautiful artwork of a 1936 MAI student design for a VTOL fighter:

http://www.rp-one.net/sokol_vtol/sokol_vtol.html

Other than this one page, I can find nothing else on this design, though Pawling does reference a Russian magazine article, "Aviatsia i Cosmonavtika Magazin" (1999). Does anyone have any more info on this design?

For that matter, does anyone have any more 1930s Soviet "secret projects" to share? I love the "Tin Tin in the Soviet Union" look of this one.

Thanks and regards,

Matthew

 

[Antonio]

Borovik posted some drawings for Richard here:

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2072.0/highlight,mai+sokol.html

Please use the forum's "search tool" or just browse the "Early Aircraft Projects" section and you'll find some more 1930's "Soviet Secret Projects"

Regards,

Antonio

 

[cluttonfred]

Thanks, I had done some searching but without success. I am doing some fishing around in the archives (there's a lot of good stuff in there) but I'd welcome any suggestions. Cheers, Matthew

 

[hole in the ground]

Hi mole. I did a search for
193 soviet
which managed to catch a few interesting pages. You'll have to do some sifting but not a lot.
here are the results
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=search2

 

[cluttonfred]

Thanks, hole in the ground. Your link doesn't work but I did play around with the "Advanced Search" feature to limit the query to the "Early Aircraft Projects" group with the search term "Soviet" and found several interesting items.

I've seen the aircraft before, but the post below reminded me of the Moskalyev SAM-9 Strela lightplane proof-of-concept light aircraft with an ogival delta wing, which would be great fun to model in X-Plane!

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3923.0/highlight,soviet.html

 

[Stargazer2006]

Old Russian three-view and illustration of the MAI Sokol project:

 

[Stargazer2006]

Topics merged.

 

[Tzoli]

The first drawing is like the ww2 fighter version of the Boeing V-22 Osprey!!

 

[hesham]

The first drawing is like the ww2 fighter version of the Boeing V-22 Osprey!!

Yes Tzoli,


but it is tilt-wing aircraft and the V-22 is a tilt-rotor.

 

[Retrofit]

Hi,

Yur'ev VTOL fighter project;

Isn't this project the MAI-Kurochkin Sokol?
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6106.msg152272.html#msg152272

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Yur'ev VTOL fighter project;

Isn't this project the MAI-Kurochkin Sokol?
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6106.msg152272.html#msg152272

Yes,it is,


we must merge those topics.

 

[Stargazer2006]

MAI-Kurochkin or Yuriev? And if we merged, does it mean that Yuriev designed it for MAI? Please clarify for me, folks!

 

[Jemiba]

My level of knowledge is, that the ""Sokol" was designed at the MAI (Moskovskiy Aviatsionniy Institut) by a student
named F. Kurochkin, under the auspices of his professor Yuryev ("Yur'ev" ?). The design was developed to a high
level of maturity, including theories, analytical calculations and experimantal tests and was regarded as plausible
and feasible by Polikarpov.
But you're right, it's well documented and at least had influence on the post-war, so it probably deserves a thread on
his own, especially, as it got greater publicity, than other Soviet VTOL designs from this era ( see http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2072.0/highlight,mai+sokol.html and Kurochkin surely had nothing to do with the older designs, which
can be found here now http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18178.msg168027.html#msg168027
and all about this fighter design here.
Sorry for any inconvenience !

 

[Motocar]

Link renders the MAI Sokol VTOL fighter

http://rp-one.net/sokol_vtol/sokol_vtol.html

 

[hesham]

Nice find my dear Motocar.

 

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Yur'ev VTOL fighter project

OK. This is so much my priority CGI modelling project now. Do you have any more information - specifically dimensions?

RP1

Apparently it got done! Nice work!