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Luckily enough we are not in the 30's anymore - when instructions inside the cockpit were written into the customer language. Imagine, if US pilots had to become fluent in Turkish language to fly their F-35s.

Most startling example: 1940 France requisition of Potez 63 to be sold to varied countries... including Romania, and so french pilots had to be versed into romania language. :p

I can think of some cases like this - it happened to other air forces across time. Pretty fun to see those things still happen nowadays
(also: in your face, Erdogan !)
 

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good news for the F-35s finding a new home
bad news for Turkey. I don't think the trade off for the S-400 with the F-35 was worth it.
 

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But I recall several years ago the story being we were selling less stealthy jets overseas than what the USA bought. So we are buying less stealthy jets? Either way a smart move
 

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JASSM to kill coronavirus, really ? Gotta love US politics... :p
 

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Well, THAT will boost numbers purchased. Might be a bit of a nuisance for the cleanup squads though.
 

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good lawd
its hard to believe there's that many F-35s already delivered in both the US and globally.
I've always felt like it's been in development for so long, as well as me being influenced by the generally slow procurement of other similar 90s aircraft..
 

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good lawd
its hard to believe there's that many F-35s already delivered in both the US and globally.
I've always felt like it's been in development for so long, as well as me being influenced by the generally slow procurement of other similar 90s aircraft..

About 500 delivered (all variants) to all customers. USAF got half of them.
 

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And 3100 ordered so far, so 2600 more in the pipeline... o_O
 

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On Aviation Week: Pentagon rethinks ALIS - F35-logistics system.
The Pentagon is in the early stages of replacing the troubled Lockheed Martin F-35’s autonomous logistics system with a new, cloud-based network, and hopes to get it up and running by the end of 2022.

The Operational Data Integrated Network (ODIN) is intended to reduce workload and increase F-35 mission readiness rates by using a smaller, deployable, commercial and cloud-native architecture. Right now, F-35 users operate the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS) that collects inflight information for maintainers to predict part failures.
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ODIN initial delivery is planned for September 2021.
 

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So much for kill switches...
(except for backdoors on Boeing fighters!)

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(statement by Gen Holmes, transcribed by Stephen Trimble @thedewline)
 
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The images come from Ian Knight's twitter account. Knight is a pilot flying with the Royal Netherlands Air Force. He posted some images and video from the mass SDB drop test mission, which saw a full load of eight SDBs being dropped out of an RNLAF F-35A's weapons bays and impact a set of targets with great accuracy. Knight mentions that 16 SDBs were launched in the test and a video he posted shows eight being dropped from a USAF Operational Test (OT) tailed F-35A, which was obviously involved, as well. The RNLAF, a partner in the F-35 program, has been deeply involved with the F-35's flight testing and development with aircraft and personnel operating out of Edwards AFB for years.
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1297224445963141130

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Pay-walled unfortunately ---
The Pentagon's top weapons buyer said Thursday that the Lockheed Martin-built F-35 Joint Strike Fighter should finally go into full production by next March following a series of delays -- the latest for COVID-19 workplace restrictions.

"I am confident that we are going to meet the March date," said Ellen Lord, undersecretary of Defense for Acquisitions and Sustainment.


However, Lord said she is going to Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Maryland, next week with Robert Behler, the Pentagon's director of operational test and evaluation, to check on issues with the Joint Simulation Environment (JSE) facility for flight operations testing.

She said the trip is necessary to "understand exactly where we are" on the ability to run the JSE and get to full production.


"There have been setbacks within the JSE" on getting to full production for the F-35, the most expensive weapons system ever bought by the Pentagon, at $398 billion thus far.

The March 2021 target date, first reported by Bloomberg, was forced by delays to comply with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines "to make sure we had a safe working environment," Lord said at a Pentagon briefing.

More than 440 F-35s have been delivered around the world as of October 2019; full rate production approval would allow Lockheed to start producing upward of 160 aircraft per year.

Military.com reported last September that issues with the Joint Simulation Environment were delaying Initial Operational Test and Evaluation (IOT&E) for the F-35s.

The IOT&E will go ahead "when the JSE is ready to adequately complete the testing," DoD spokesman Air Force Lt. Col. Mike Andrews said in a statement at the time. "The JSE is required to adequately perform F-35 IOT&E against modern adversary aircraft and dense ground threats in realistic scenarios."
 

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More than 440 F-35s have been delivered around the world as of October 2019; full rate production approval would allow Lockheed to start producing upward of 160 aircraft per year.
The FRP decision has no bearing whatsoever on the annual production rate.
 

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More than 440 F-35s have been delivered around the world as of October 2019; full rate production approval would allow Lockheed to start producing upward of 160 aircraft per year.
The FRP decision has no bearing whatsoever on the annual production rate.
I know that.
It will remove the obligation of annually ordering the jets and let DoD make multi year buys.

I just copied the article that the other guy supposedly thought was paywalled.
 

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Thanks for showing what was in the article Bhurki, but to clarify, when I try to open it, it says I need to subscribe
 

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More than 440 F-35s have been delivered around the world as of October 2019; full rate production approval would allow Lockheed to start producing upward of 160 aircraft per year.
The FRP decision has no bearing whatsoever on the annual production rate.
I know that.
It will remove the obligation of annually ordering the jets and let DoD make multi year buys.
Not quite true since Congress granted EOQ authority and the program has been using it
since Lot 13.

What MYP gives you is a single contract with (large) cancellation penalties.
 

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Notice the rate of acquisition with Korea expecting to get the remaining of its 40 airframe on order by the end of next year (from 16 today)!
 

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EOQ authority and the program has been using it
since Lot 13.
EOQ allows 'multi-single year' buys where each single year buy or 'Lot' still incurs some overhead of its own and and kind of hiccup until the Congress formalises each Lot.

Multi year buys collapse the schedules for these multi single year buys into one saving on these costs and hence are cheaper ( many other factors like confirmed long leads etc)
 

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EOQ authority and the program has been using it
since Lot 13.
EOQ allows 'multi-single year' buys where each single year buy or 'Lot' still incurs some overhead of its own and and kind of hiccup until the Congress formalises each Lot.

Multi year buys collapse the schedules for these multi single year buys into one saving on these costs and hence are cheaper ( many other factors like confirmed long leads etc)
The main thing MYP gives a program is...EOQ authority. That's the been shown to be the main source of savings.
The only difference between EOQ + base + option year contracts and MYP is that the latter is a single contract.

Congress still has to formalize each annual buy in an MYP since MYPs are typically designed with options
as Congress will plus up/plus minus as is its wont.

Yes, provided Congress appropriates the requisite funds, annual quantity authorization is automatic.

The argument goes that the MYP single contract is a basis for administrative overhead savings and an incentive for
greater cost reduction from suppliers (esp. sub tier) since the annual buys over the k-year period are basically guaranteed.
 

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F-35 MCR over different LRIP batches.
Certainly adds weight to the argument of going FRP.

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