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www.defensenews.com

Rescue vessels begin search for missing Indonesian submarine

The German-built Type 209 diesel-electric submarine KRI Nanggala was declared missing in the early hours of Wednesday morning local time in waters north of the Indonesian resort island of Bali.
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www.wsj.com

Indonesian Submarine With 53 On Board Goes Missing Off Bali

A search is under way for an Indonesian navy submarine with 53 people on board that went missing off the island of Bali and may have lost control during a dive, the Indonesian navy said.
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www.reuters.com

The search for a missing submarine in Indonesian waters

A search for an Indonesian submarine that went missing with 53 crew on board off Bali continued on Thursday after rescuers found an oil slick and neighbouring countries pledged to help.
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Indonesian leader orders all-out effort to find submarine as oxygen runs low

Indonesia's president ordered an all-out effort to find a missing submarine in a race against time to save the 53 crew, whose oxygen supply defence chiefs said would last only until Saturday.
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Sad times.

If i may share, back then on the fleet days, maybe 2014. I visited our naval base and see her. The officers there told us (there are several friends with me) that the boat are soon slated to be a training boat as soon as the DSME-209 commissioned. Unfortunately she has to soldier in active duty much longer.

She was commissioned in 1981, this year marks her 40th year of her service.

The navy may state "oxygen limit" but i'll be honest i'm rather pessimistic. Especially to see that to see the suspicion of blackout/power failure and oil slick plus the supposed "over 700 meters" deep of submergence. Her hull integrity is in doubt.
 
Sad to hear another subsmash going on. Good to know that other nations are contributing assets to the search though.

Just hoping they get those folk out of their very sticky situation. Fingers firmly crossed.

www.cbsnews.com

Indonesian submarine with 53 on board goes missing during torpedo drill

Officials say they lost contact with the 40-year-old submarine's crew north of Bali, and they've asked Singapore and Australia for help finding it.
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I did search to see if there was a similar thread and appologise for creating this. Please feel free to merge or delete this thread.
 
Grey Havoc said:
Earlier story (update of an earlier linked article):
www.bbc.com

Indonesia submarine search feared to have failed as oxygen runs out

Attempts by Indonesia to rescue 53 crew seem in vain as their oxygen supply is thought to have run out.
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I'll be honest... the "Oxygen supply" part is sketchy... not only because the remains of torpedo tube liner was found and shown... but also that Nanggala apparently sailed WITHOUT Oxygen candle.

Generating oxygen onboard can be done by water electrolysis and basically storing air. But there is another way namely burning oxygen candle.

The news about that are still in Indonesian... ignore the apparent blame shifting attempt. The lack of Oxygen candle abroad itself is a scandal. Who clear the submarine to sail without it.

 
news.usni.org

UPDATED: Indonesian Navy Finds Missing Submarine Wreckage, All Aboard Dead - USNI News

This post has been updated with additional information on the loss of KRI Nanggala. KUALA LUMPUR — The Indonesian Armed Forces announced the finding of the wreckage of attack submarine KRI Nanggala (402) and that all 53 personnel on board it had perished. In a Sunday press conference held in...
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From last Thursday:
news.usni.org

3 Submarine Rescue Ships Hunting for Missing Indonesian Submarine - USNI News

KULA LUMPUR — Search efforts on Thursday have yet to turn up any sign of the missing Indonesian attack submarine KRI Nanggala (402) and 53 personnel. Meanwhile, submarine rescue ships from three different countries are en route to the scene near Bali. India, Malaysia and Singapore have all...
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Not popular perhaps but with the way things are going out there, I do hope the PRC or NK did not do this.
 
Foo Fighter said:
Not popular perhaps but with the way things are going out there, I do hope the PRC or NK did not do this.
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This is pure conspiracy theory thinking. Why is it so hard to accept that a 40-year-old submarine might be lost in a tragic accident, rather than by hostile action?

1) North Korea and Indonesia actually have fairly friendly relations, so they would have zero reason to sink an Indonesian sub. Nor do they have the capacity to find and sink a submarine more than 3000 miles from North Korean territory.

2) China and Indonesia have had some disputes about maritime borders, but escalating from an exchange of diplomatic notes over fishing rights to sinking an Indonesian vessel deep inside Indonesian territory would be bizarre. Seriously, go look at a map to see where the Bali Strait is. That's where the sub was lost, and it's nowhere even close to disputed waters.
 
I said "I hope the PRC or NK did not do this".

No mention of a conspiracy schmiracy. I think you read too much into what I wrote.

For either of those nations to act outside of the disputed waters is far from impossible.
 
Foo Fighter said:
I said "I hope the PRC or NK did not do this".

No mention of a conspiracy schmiracy. I think you read too much into what I wrote.

For either of those nations to act outside of the disputed waters is far from impossible.
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"I hope they didn't to this" suggests you think there is a meaningful possibility that they did. There is not. Hence, "conspiracy theory thinking."
 
TomS said:
Foo Fighter said:
I said "I hope the PRC or NK did not do this".

No mention of a conspiracy schmiracy. I think you read too much into what I wrote.

For either of those nations to act outside of the disputed waters is far from impossible.
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"I hope they didn't to this" suggests you think there is a meaningful possibility that they did. There is not. Hence, "conspiracy theory thinking."
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I could have said 'either of them" I suppose but your response seems like someone who see's what they want in posts. I am simply saying that I hope they did not do this. The conspiracy thinking is in your head not mine.
 
The loss of a single person serving their country in an avoidable event is a tragedy, that this continues to occur worldwide, is a disgrace.
 
Grey Havoc said:
www.reuters.com

Salvage of Indonesian submarine ends as questions over military hardware loom

Indonesia ended salvage efforts on Wednesday to retrieve a disaster-stricken submarine that cost 53 lives and prompted questions over the maintenance of military equipment in the world's fourth most populous nation.
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I note that they put this news in the 'China' section.
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Yeah.

The salve efforts ended.. well as the purpose was, despite our local media or internet buzzers said, was likely to secure some sensitive cryptographic equipment onboard.
 
Submarine sinkings are notably cruels and murderous events; every major navy in the world seemingly has this kind of tragedy.
1968 was pretty crazy by this metric: USN lost one (Scorpion), Soviet Navy too (K-129), France (Minerve) and Israel (Dakar) too (both in the mediterranean only days apart !)
There wasn't a single survivor of all sinkings... and all of them remain rather mysterious (bar Scorpion perhaps).
 
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