Kaiser cargo wing

[hesham]

Hi,

the NASA four engined bomber projects of 1948,one had twin
boom and the other all wing configurations.


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930082266_1993082266.pdf

 

[mattrix]

Hi:

The last one is Kaiser Tailless Airplane discussed here:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3571.0/

 

[lark]

The twinboom must also be a Kaiser concept I think.
Both planes used the same wing (page 23 of the paper)

 

[Tophe]

Thanks for this twin-boom new discovery... ;D

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the tailless aircraft was called Kaiser Model 36 of 1943,
and the project of 1944 was called V6.

http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/File:LMAL_35846.jpg

 

[Retrofit]

GREAT!
Thanks Hesham

 

[Stargazer2006]

the tailless aircraft was called Kaiser Model 36 of 1943,
and the project of 1944 was called V6.

Thanks hesham for sharing these. I had kept it on the side myself until we could identify them properly (I'm actually puzzled by the "36" designation since Kaiser had become "Kaiser-Fleetwings" by then, and there is already a Fleetwings 36 model that had NOTHING to do with it...).

 

[hesham]

You are right my dear Stargazer,

the Model 36 was a NASA Model,and not for Kaiser;

http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/Additional_Photos_for_12-Foot_Low_Speed_Tunnel_3

 

[Tophe]

The Convair B-36 Peacemaker also started as Consolidated "Model 36" if I remember correctly.

 

[Stargazer2006]

Well, yeah. But then I guess most manufacturers had a "Model 36" at some point (McDonnell's Voodoo family, for instance, were all Model 36 variants). The trouble here arose from the fact that it was associated to Kaiser, and since Fleetwings (the sister company) already had a Model 36 it made that designation unlikely. Now we know that the bomber was "model 36" as in "scale model #36" for this NASA wind tunnel, not an actual Kaiser model number.

 

[Retrofit]

Ooops! Problem :

http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/mw/images/8/8c/LMAL_46169.JPG

 

[Stargazer2006]

Surprise surprise... The boomless four-engined flying-wing pictured further above may not have been a bomber after all...

A page containing 22 photographs describes it clearly as the "Kaiser Cargo Wing"...

http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/Test_159:_Kaiser_Cargo_Wing_%28Stability%29_Tail_Off

 

[Stargazer2006]

As for the twin-boom version, lots of photos are available too.

It would be nice if a moderator could modify the title of this topic AND move it to "pre-war projects", as the NASA website clearly gives 1945 as the date for the Cargo Wing tests and 1946 for the twin-boom version. Thanks!

http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/Test_163:_Kaiser_Wing_with_Tail
http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/Test_174:_Kaiser-Twin_Boom

Is it just me,or does the twin-boom variant seem to have "Burnelli" written all over it?!? :

 

[Retrofit]

Cargo...

 

[Antonio]

renamed topic

 

[Orionblamblam]

Surprise surprise... The boomless four-engined flying-wing pictured further above may not have been a bomber after all...

Errrr... who exactly was surprised by this?

http://www.up-ship.com/apr/v0n0.pdf

 

[Stargazer2006]

Oh... NOW I know where I'd seen that design before... :

 

[hesham]

Anther Kaiser tailless aircraft was discovered by my dear Tophe;

The Canadian patent CA444175 of 1947.

 

[Stargazer2006]

Anther Kaiser tailless aircraft was discovered by my dear Tophe;
The Canadian patent CA444175 of 1947.

Doesn't look like another one. To me it's the same cargo design that was patented previously in the United States.
When you plan to produce something and want to protect your work, it makes sense to have it patented in several countries.

 

[hesham]

That's right my dear.

 

[hesham]

the Kaiser four engined bomber projects of 1948,one had twin
boom and the other all wing configurations.


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930082266_1993082266.pdf

Hi.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

https://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/crgis/images/4/41/FFT-TestLog.pdf