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Russia opts for lunar project with China over continued cooperation with ISS partners beyond LEO
HELSINKI — Russia is preparing to sign a memorandum of understanding with China to cooperate on a vision for an international lunar research station.

The ILRS is understood to be a Chinese-developed vision for a robotic base at the lunar south pole. The first steps will be the upcoming Chang’e-,6, -7 and -8 missions and international missions such as Russia’s Luna 27. In the early 2030s an expanded ILRS will involve long-term robotic and potentially short-term crewed missions. A long-term human presence at the lunar south pole is the goal for 2036-2045.

The project, at this early stage, would appear to consist of Chinese, Russian and potentially other nations contributing their own, discrete spacecraft. This would be in contrast to a more complex, integrated program such as the International Space Station.

ILRS objectives include “construction and operation of human[ity]’s first sharing platform in the lunar south pole, supporting long-term, large-scale scientific exploration, technical experiments and development and utilization of lunar resources’, according to a 2020 presentation to the Scientific and Technical Subcommittee of the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space (COPUOS) by the Lunar Exploration and Space Engineering Center under the China National Space Administration (CNSA).
 

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I wonder how much this will be driven by each country. Will one be more more in the driving seat than the other.

The heads of the Chinese and Russian space agencies signed a memorandum of understanding Tuesday on cooperative construction of an international lunar research station.

Zhang Kejian, head of the China National Space Administration (CNSA), and Dmitry Rogozin, General Director of Roscosmos, signed the document during a virtual meeting March 9.

The International Lunar Research Station (ILRS) is described as a comprehensive scientific experiment base built on the lunar surface or on the lunar orbit that can carry out multi-disciplinary and multi-objective scientific research activities including exploration and utilization, lunar-based observation, basic scientific experiment and technical verification, and long-term autonomous operation.

 

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Per lack of a better thread... considering the few resources the Moon has to offer.

I think a solar array ( silica) industry would make some sense as a First step.

Second step: build lunar SSTOs (2700 m/s from Moon surface to escape, or 2400 m/s to LLO)
- titanium structure
- aluminium fuel
- oxygen oxidizer
- with silica solar arrays

Third step: a SBSP demo plant to power a lunar base. Made of step 1 solar arrays boosted by step 2 lunar SSTOs. SBSP makes little sense on Earth but how about a modest variant for a lunar base ?

Fourth step: sell the KREEP / REE / rare earths left by the mining of the three early steps.
Could the REEs be boosted to Earth by titanium SSTOs manufactured on the Moon ?
What kind of specific impulse has LOX/al ? 280 ?
 

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China aims to launch Chang'e-6 lunar probe around 2024


NANJING, April 24 (Xinhua) -- China aims to launch the Chang'e-6 probe to collect samples in the South Pole-Aitken Basin on the far side of the moon around 2024, said a space expert on Saturday.

Hu Hao, the chief designer of the third stage of China's lunar exploration program, told the China Space Conference, held in Nanjing, east China's Jiangsu Province, that detailed designing on the mission is in progress.

Four payloads developed by scientists from France, Sweden, Italy, Russia and China have been preliminarily selected. After the detailed plan of the Chang'e-6 mission comes out, the payloads will be finally determined, said Hu.

China will carry out lunar resource exploration, scientific research and technological experiments in the Chang'e-6, Chang'e-7 and Chang'e-8 missions, aiming to build a prototype scientific research station on the moon by 2030, Hu added.
 

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This is all interesting new heavy Yenisei and Don rocket designs and testing nuclear tugs to travel around our solar system might involve China to further fund deeper space projects with Russia ( the country itself will also further boost their economy with arctic projects and nordstream 2 construction close to finish to assist with some funding). Keldysh Center created one nuclear engine with a designated project Nuklon and I am more curious about the other nuclear reactor engine being designed by KB Arsenal.
 

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View: https://youtu.be/l2P5kFTBuOs
 

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The parachute system for the Orel (Eng: Eagle) spacecraft will be tested by dropping from space in 2024.

Roscosmos is planning the first space launches as part of a test of the parachute system for the promising Russian Orel spacecraft in 2024. This was announced to journalists by Igor Nasenkov, General Director of the Technodinamika holding of the Rostec State Corporation.

"Now we are at the stage of creating prototypes. Field tests are underway. We're on schedule. We plan to complete comprehensive tests in 2023. And in 2024, capsule drops from space should already begin, the first two drops will be without people" he said.

The head of the holding specified that a three-dome parachute system is being created for the Russian promising spacecraft, the area of one dome reaches 1,200 square meters. m. The parachute system will be able to withstand a load weighing 9,535 kg.

The advanced manned spacecraft "Orel" (formerly known as "Federation") is being created as part of the Russian lunar program.
 

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