Hanriot and Lorraine-Hanriot designations

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Hi,
some Lorraine-Hanriot aircraft and projects:
LH-10,LH-11,LH-12 and LH-13 :two seat parasol wing trainers aircraft.

LH-14 :two seat parasol wing utility project.

LH-15 :two seat parasol wing observation project.

LH-21 :air ambulance aircraft.

LH-30,LH-60 and LH-61 :two seat trainers aircraft.

LH-70 :three engined high wing monoplane intended for colonial duties.
 

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Excellent work my dear Tophe,


it is very very interesting designs,I am grateful to you,
You spoke about Jean Biche,and he designed the
Hanriot-Biche H.110,but I found in that site a new
design to me,the H.100,was that the aircraft
you mention it as ground attack design ?.


http://www.jitterbuzz.com/MAN_1934_07.HTML
 

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It seems this H-100 could be a mistyping. In the Trait d'Union #214 (Mar-Apr 2004) the "modern" Hanriot projects/prototypes are LH-41 and derivatives, LH-50, LH-70, LH-80, LH-110 and derivatives, H-170 and derivatives, H-220 and derivatives, H-230 and derivatives, H-240 and derivatives, NC-540, NC-550.
For the twin-boom Lorraine-Hanriot LH-110, it was a proposal for the C1 requirement of 1930, designed by Ing. Biche inspired by his own designs and the LH-50. Later codes H-100 and H-115. No H-100 is mentionned there, sorry.
Concerning the LH-50: "flying model of a long range airliner project, with 2 lateral booms. Single-seat with a single engine Salmson 7 Ac of 95hp. It made a few flights at Villacoublay piloted by Berthelin, before cancellation." No picture alas.
 

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Tophe said:
It seems this H-100 could be a mistyping. In the Trait d'Union #214 (Mar-Apr 2004) the "modern" Hanriot projects/prototypes are LH-41 and derivatives, LH-50, LH-70, LH-80, LH-110 and derivatives, H-170 and derivatives, H-220 and derivatives, H-230 and derivatives, H-240 and derivatives, NC-540, NC-550.
For the twin-boom Lorraine-Hanriot LH-110, it was a proposal for the C1 requirement of 1930, designed by Ing. Biche inspired by his own designs and the LH-50. Later codes H-100 and H-115. No H-100 is mentionned there, sorry.
Concerning the LH-50: "flying model of a long range airliner project, with 2 lateral booms. Single-seat with a single engine Salmson 7 Ac of 95hp. It made a few flights at Villacoublay piloted by Berthelin, before cancellation." No picture alas.
Thank you my dear Tophe very much,

but we want to know more about Hanriot and Lorraine-Hanriot projects,
we know those aircraft;

LH.10,LH.11,LH.12,LH.13,LH.14,LH.15,LH.16,LH.21,LH.30,LH.41,LH.42,
LH.50,LH.60,LH.61,LH.70,LH.80,LH-110,LH-115,LH.130 and LH.131.
 

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Hi all,


I search for a complete list of aircraft and projects by the Hanriot-company´s ? Can you help?


Thanks, Maveric
 

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I have reorganized the information pertaining to SNCAC (Aérocentre) and related companies (Farman, Hanriot).

Here is a list of all SNCAC-related topics on this forum:

Designations:
  • Farman Systems
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4651.0
  • Hanriot and Lorraine-Hanriot designations
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9744.0
  • SNCAC / Aérocentre designations (NC-)
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12484.0
Projects by designation:
  • SNCAC (Centre) NC-140 high-altitude tandem-engine bomber project
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5309.0
  • CENTRE NC.150 B4-01
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8574.0
  • SNCAC (Centre) NC-150 high altitude medium bomber prototype
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12642.0
  • SNCAC (Centre) NC-211: the fat and ugly Cormoran...
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1241.0
  • Hanriot 220
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8561.0
  • SNCAC (Centre) NC-410 torpedo-bomber/recce seaplane
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8652.0
  • SNCAC (Centre) NC-420 shipboard catapult-launched flying boat
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8653.0
  • SNCAC (Hanriot) NC-510 Army co-operation aircraft prototypes
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12658.0
  • SNCAC (Hanriot) NC-540 and NC-550
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13796.0
  • SNCAC (Centre) NC-800 « Le Cab »
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1449.0
  • SNCAC (Centre) NC-820 twin-boom light transport project
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9655.0
Various projects:

  • Hanriot projects & little known aircraft
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13819.0
  • Farman and SNCAC projects
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15845.0
  • SNCAC (Aérocentre) projects
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15924.0
Also see:
  • French Aircraft Competitions
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,412.0
  • Postwar French competitions
    http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,441.0
External link:
  • Sncac-600 aka Hanriot NC-600 ! :)
    http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/sncac-600.php
 

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Hi,


later I will explain most of those aircraft and projects,but I just display them to
be good knowledge.


- First from 1907 up to 1915,Rene Hanriot built and designed those aircraft;


Hanriot-1909,Hanriot-Pagny,Type I up to Type IX


- From 1916 up to 1930; HD series


HD.1 up to HD.46


- From 1930,Lorraine-Hanriot;


LH-10,LH-11,LH-12,LH-13,LH-15,LH-16 LH-21,LH-30,LH-41,LH-42,LH-50,LH-60,LH-61,LH-70,LH-80,
LH-110,LH-130 & LH-131.


- From 1933 the Hanriot aircraft;


H.10,H.12,H.16,H.30,H.110,H.115,H.130,H.131,H.150,H.161,H.170,H.171,H-172,H.173,H.174,H.175,H.180,H.181,
H.182,H.183,H-184,H.185,H-190,H.191,H.192,H.195,H.220,H.221,H.230,H.231,H.232,H.240


Please note that,in third and fourth series,I mention known aircraft and projects only.
 

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Hi,

as I spoke in reply # 7,about the stages of Hanriot aircraft,I will began with first state;

Monoplane 1908 was a single seat historical monoplane,powered by one 50 hp Buchet 6-cylinder
inline piston engine
Type-I was a monoplane of 1907,powered by one 50 hp Buchet engine
Type-II was a Libellule two/three-seat monoplane of 1909,powered by 100 hp Gnome engine
Type-III was a racer monoplane of 1909,powered by 100 hp Gnome engine
Type-IV was a military two seat monoplane of 1911,powered by 50 hp Peugeot engine
Type-V was a monoplane of 1910
Type-VI was a monoplane of 1910
Type-VII was a two-seat trainer monoplane of 1911,powered by 35 hp engine
Type-VIII was a monoplane of 1911,powered by 100 hp engine
Type-IX was a two seat trainer monoplane of 1912,powered by 45 hp engine
Hanriot-Pagny was a single seat mid-wing racer monoplane of 1912,powered by 50 hp Gnome
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Hi,

he formed at early WWI the Aéroplanes Hanriot et Cie,with Mr. Pierre Dupont as a designer;

HD.1 was a single seat fighter biplane,powered by one 110 Rhone 9Jb engine
HD.2 was a single seat seaplane fighter biplane,developed from HD.1,powered by 130 hp Clerget 9B
engine
HD.3 was a two-seat biplane intended for fighter and night fighter roles,powered by 260 hp
Salmson 9Za engine
HD.4 was a two-seat floatplane version of HD.3,powered by 260 hp Salmson 9Za engine
HD.5 was a two-seat C.2 fighter biplane,powered by 300 hp Hispano-Suiza 8F engine
HD.6 was a two-seat C.2 fighter biplane,powered by 500 hp Salmson 18Z engine
HD.7 was a single seat fighter biplane,powered by 300 hp Hispano-Suiza 8F engine
HD.8 was a single seat fighter biplane,powered by 170 hp Rhone 9R engine
HD.9 was a single seat fighter and high altitude photo recce biplane,powered by one 260 hp
Salmson 9Z engine
HD.10 was a twin engined pusher combat aircraft,never completed,powered by two 220 hp
Renault engines,I suggest it was given this designation,need confirm ?
HD.11 ------?
HD.12 was a single seat shipboard fighter biplane,powered by 170 hp Rhone 9R engine
HD.13 ------?
HD.14 was a two-seat primary trainer biplane,powered by 80 hp Rhone engine
HD.14ter was a modified version with more improvements
HD.14S was air ambulance version of 1925
HD.141 was a conversion of ex-HD.14 for aero club,powered by 130 hp Clerget engine
HD.15 was a two-seat fighter recce biplane,powered by 300 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Fb engine
HD.16 ------?
HD.17 was a twin-float seaplane version of HD.14,powered by 130 hp Clerget engine
HD.18 was a three-seat colonial police biplane,powered by one 300 hp Renault 12Fe engine
HD.19 was a two-seat intermediate trainer biplane,powered by 180 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Ac
engine
HD.20 was a single seat shipboard fighter biplane,powered by 300 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Fb
engine
HD.21 ------?
HD.22 was a single seat racer monoplane for Coupe Deutsch de la Meurthe of 1921,powered
by 300 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Fb engine
HD.23 ------?
HD.24 was a two-seat colonial police biplane,powered by one Lorraine 12Da engine
HD.25 was a six-seat high-wing transport monoplane,powered by one 500 hp Salmson 18
engine
HD.26 was an aerodynamically clean single seat fighter biplane,powered by 260 hp Salmson 9Z
engine
HD.27 was a single seat naval fighter biplane,developed from HD.2,powered by 180 hp Hispano-
Suiza 8Ac engine
HD.28 was a exported version of HD.14 trainer,powered by 80 hp Le Rhône 9C engine
HD.29 was a single seat ET.1 trainer for shipboard aircraft,powered by 180 hp Hispano-
Suiza 8Ab engine,1924
HD.30 ------?
H.31 was a single seat fighter biplane,powered by one 500 hp Salmson 18 engine
HD.32 was a two-seat trainer biplane,developed from HD.14,powered by 110 Anzani engine
HD.320 was an improved version of HD.32,powered by 120 hp Salmson 9Ac engine
HD.321 was an improved version of HD.32,powered by 130 hp Clerget 9B engine
H.33 was a two-seat fighter biplane,powered by 500 hp Salmson 18Ab engine
H.34 was a two-seat primary trainer parasol high-wing monoplane,powered by 80 hp Salmson
18Ab engine
H.35 was a two seat intermediate trainer parasol high-wing monoplane,powered by 180 hp
Hispano-Suiza 8Ab engine,developed from H.34
H.36 was a twin-float version of H.35,powered by 120 hp Salmson 9Ac engine
H.37 was a two-seat twin engined B.2 bomber category biplane Project,developed from H.31,
powered by two 300 hp Hispano-suiza 8Fb engines
H.38 was a 3/4 seat sesquiplane flying boat,powered by two 180 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Ab engines
H.39 ------?
H.40S was an AIR ambulance aircraft,developed from HD.14S,but powered by 120 hp Salmson
9Ac engine
HD.41H was a two-seat trainer developed from H.40S,as a seaplane,powered by 120 hp
Salmson 9Ac engine
H.410 was improved version of HD.14,powered by 100 hp Lorraine 5Pa engine
H.411 was improved version of HD.14,powered by 95 hp Salmson 7Ac engine
LH.412 was improved version of HD.14,developed during Lorraine-Hanriot period in 1932,
powered by 110 hp Lorraine engine
H.42 ------?
H.43 was a two-seat intermediate trainer biplane,powered by 260 hp Salmson 9Cm engine
H.430 was a version powered by one Salmson 9Ab engine,never completed
H.431 was improved version ,powered by 230 hp Lorraine 7Mc engine
H.432 was armed gunnery version,powered by 300 hp Lorraine Algol engine
H.433 was improved version,powered by 240 hp Lorraine 7Me engine
H.434 was improved version,powered by 240 hp Lorraine 7Me engine
H.435 was unknown Project
H.436 was a general-purpose version,powered by 240 hp Lorraine 7Me engine
H.437 was an ambulance version,powered by 240 hp Lorraine 7Me engine
H.438 was an exported version,powered by 330 hp Lorraine 7Me engine
H.439 was a civil trainer version,some had the standard tailskid
H.44 ------?
H.45 ------?
H.46 was a two-seat liaison parasol wing monoplane,powered by 95 hp Salmson 7Ac engine
H.461 was a version,powered by 100 hp Lorraine 5Pa engine
H.462 was a version,powered by 120 hp Salmson 9Ac engine
H.463 was a version,powered by 120 hp Lorraine 5Pc engine
H.464 was a version,powered by 130 hp Clerget 9B engine
H.465 was a version,powered by 180 hp Hispano-Suiza 8Ab engine
H.47 speculative design
 

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Hi,

Moto-Aviette was a light biplane,powered by one motorcycle engine,maybe it was given
the designation HD.23,need confirm of course.
 

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in February 1930,Hanriot became a part of Lorraine and called Lorraine-Hanriot,and they
dissolved this partnership in 1933,the aircraft in this period taken the letters "LH" ;

LH.431 was the same as H.431
LH.437 was the same as H.437
LH.412 I spoke about it before
LH.10 was a two-seat parasol wing primary trainer monoplane,powered by one 100 hp
Lorraine 5Pa engine
LH.11 was a two-seat parasol wing primary trainer monoplane,powered by one 110 hp Lorraine
5Pb engine,developed from LH.10
LH.12 was a two-seat parasol wing primary trainer monoplane,powered by one 135 hp Salmson
9Nc engine
LH.13 was a two-seat parasol wing primary trainer monoplane,powered by one 110 hp Lorraine
5Pb engine
LH.14 was not used in order to avoid confusion with the famous HD-14
LH.15 was observation version of LH.10,intended for Romania,powered by one 110 hp Lorraine
5Pb engine,remained a Project
LH.16 was improved version of this series,powered by one 120 hp Renault 4Pdi engine
LH.21S was a two-seat air ambulance parasol wing monoplane,developed from H.46,powered
by one 120 hp Lorraine 5Pc engine
LH.30 was a two-seat parasol wing primary trainer monoplane,developed from LH.13,powered
by one 240 hp Lorraine 7Mb engine
LH.41 was a single seat low-wing racer monoplane,intended for Michelin Cup of 1929/30,and
powered by one 230 hp Lorraine 9Nb Algol engine
LH.41/2 was an improved version of LH.41,powered by one 230 hp Lorraine 9Nb Algol engine
LH.42 was a record breaker and racer aircraft,an improved version with some modifications,
powered by 230 hp Lorraine 9Nb Algol engine
LH.50 was a single seat long distance transport twin boom monoplane Project,powered by one 95
hp Salmson 7 Ac engine
LH.60 was a two-seat parasol wing trainer and observation monoplane,powered by one 240 hp
Lorraine 7Me engine
LH.61 was a two-seat parasol wing fighter/trainer monoplane,powered by one 240 hp Lorraine
7Me engine
LH.70 was a four-seat high-wing colonial police monoplane,powered by three 240 hp Lorraine
9Na Algol engines
LH.80 was a three-seat A.3 observation parasol wing monoplane,powered by one 600 hp
Lorraine Courlis 12 Fa engine
LH.90 ------?
LH.100 ------?
LH.110 was a single seat low-wing twin boom monoplane fighter,powered by one 500 hp
Hispano-Suiza 12Xbrs pusher engine
LH.120 ------?
LH.130 was a single seat low-wing racer/fighter-trainer monoplane,powered by 230 hp Lorraine
9Nb engine
LH.131 was a redesigned of LH.130 for Coupe Michelin of 1933,powered by one 470 hp Lorraine
Algol engine

Non-stantdrad;

HGP-6 was a five-seat transport aircraft of 1930,powered by one 250 hp Lorraine 7Mb negine,
maybe remained a Project only
Helicopter-1930 was a helicopter patent of 1930,no more details
 

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Hi,

I add HGP-6 and Helicopter-1930 to Lorraine-Hanriot period.

After this partnership dissolved,Hanriot returned to use prefix "H",here is the list;

H-110 was a redesigned of LH.110
H.115 was an improved version of LH.110,shorter nose,four blade propeller and 33 mm (1.30 in)
cannon and retractable landing gear,powered by 690 hp Hispano-Suiza 12Xbrs engine
H.120 ------?
H.130 was a redesigned of LH.130
H.131 was a redesigned of LH.131
H.140 ------?
H.150 was a three-seat general purpose military combat monoplane,led to develop SNCAC
NC.150
H.161 was a two-seat trainer/observation version of LH.16,powered by one 120 hp Renault
4Pdi engine
H.170 was a two-seat observation high-wing monoplane,powered by 170 hp Salmson 6Te
engine
H.171 was a the same powerful engine as H.170,but with two/three seats as touring aircraft
H.172 was a two/three seat trainer and touring aircraft,powered by 170 Salmson 6 AF-00
engine
H.173 was a stretch version as aerobatic,powered by 170 hp Salmson 6Te engine
H.174 was a three seat experimental trainer aircraft,powered by 170 hp Salmson 6Te engine
H.175 was built for French Navy as liaison aircraft,powered by 170 Salmson 6 AF-00 engine
H.180 was a two/three seat high-wing tourer monoplane,powered by 140 hp Renault 4 Pei
engine
H.181 was an ambulance version of H.180,with the same engine
H.182 was the main production version,with the same engine
H.183 was an aerobatic trainer version,powered by Renault 438 engine
H.184 was a three-seat trainer aircraft,powered by 180 hp Renault 4Pei engine
H.185 was a two-seat liaison aircraft,powered by 180 hp Renault 4Pei engine,intended for
French Navy
H.190 was a two-seat observation high-wing monoplane,powered by 180 hp Regnier 60/01
engine
H.191 was a three-seat tourer aircraft,powered by 180 hp Regnier 60/01 engine
H.192 was a two-seat trainer aircraft,powered by 180 hp Regnier 6 Bo 1 engine
H.193 ------?
H.194 ------?
H.195 was a two-seat liaison aircraft version,powered by 180hp Regnier 6 Bo 1 engine
H.200 ------?
H.210 ------?
H.220 was a two-seat fighter/three-seat pursuit and two-seat night fighter,with mid-wing
monoplane configuration,powered by two 680 hp Gnome-Rhone engines
H.220-2 was an improved version with some modifications,later became SNCAC NC.600
H.230 was a two-seat advanced trainer monoplane,based on H.220,powered by two 170 hp
Samson AF-00 engines
H.231 was an improved version,but powered by two 230 hp Salmson 6 AF engines
H.232 was a modified version,with single tail fin,powered by 220 hp Renault 6Q-02/03 engines
H.232/2 was improved version,later became SNCAC NC.232/2
H.240 was a three-seat trainer/recce and observation high-wing monoplane,in T3 category,
powered by two 450 hp Lorraine Algol 9Na engines,also led to developed SNCAC NC.510

Non-Standard aircraft;

Fighter-1938 was a single seat mid-wing fighter monoplane Project of 1938,powered by one
engine,maybe took any single designation between NC.560 to NC.590
Gyrocopter-1936
was a gyrocopter patent Project,developed with Mr. Robert Couprit
Helicopter-1936 was a "flying machine with rotating wings having a circular or conical trajectory,
developed with Mr. Gilbert Richard
Helicoplane-1939 was a helicoplane of 1939,powered by 230 hp Salmson engine,began static
tests and blown to Chalais-Meudon,prevented by starting of WWII
 
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