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French VSTOL concepts

Jemiba

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Now new, as a new thread, I'll start with three concepts made by Ivan Makhonine,
a born russian, later naturalized frenchmen.
Makhonine is well known for his VG designs with telescopic wings, Mak-10 and Mak-123,
but about this VTOL concepts (from VSTOL.org) I've found nothing. Surely, concepts "9"
and "10" are just schematic drawings ...
 

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The prop at the tail looks to me like begging for trouble.


(But this thing has potential as a high-tech lawn-mower!) :D
 

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One thing I'd love to see here would be more info on the various French efforts, besides those of Breguet, to utilize the BS.53 (Pegasus) or BS.100 for vstol fighters.
 

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There is the Dassault MD-610 Cavalier using a BE-53.



I don't know any other French plane using the Pegasus.
 

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Here's the Bertin ADAV design , no designation given by Cuny.

For the Nord designs, wait for hte July Le Fana issue ... ;)
Just as a clue (and because it's hopefully not used there)
and old drawing, please don't laugh ! :-\
 

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Hi,

a drawing from patent to Marchetti VSTOL aircraft project.
 

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This was a stopable rotor design, which here still looks really "heli-like". Later drawings showed
a more "fighter like" type :
 

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here Picture of SNECMA (BTZ) C-450 Coléoptère









SNECMA AP 507E intercepteur de haute altitude (high altitute interceptor)
 

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French site master 194 here http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37675 for the coléoptère C-450 SNECMA cockpit an history but you must translate.My Name is bruno and i'm living in MARSEILLE. FRANCE
 

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Welcome Bruno,
will look regularly to your site and try my understanding of the french language.
A quick look through the thread, you've send the link of, showed some things,
that might be interesting for others here, too, for example the Convair model 49 !
Good start ! ;)
 

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Aircraft recognition 101: If it's strange, it's French. If it's ugly, it's British. If it's strange and ugly, it's Russian.

Regards & all,

Thomas L. Nielsen
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Stingray said:
The C-450 Coléoptère is probably where they got the idea for the Phoenix in the movie Titan AE.

jep that right
The C-450 Coléoptère is one of iconic Aircraft of 1960s
and Template of alot SF VTOL or Spaceship design ;D
 

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Thank you dear FighterJock,

but there is no name in the article.
 

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From Icare 1963,

here is a Project for ADAV VTOL transport concept.
 

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