FOG-M, EFOGM and LongFOG

Grey Havoc said:
eshelon said:
5. M113+FOG-M (source: Popular Mechanics July 1985)
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Regarding FOG-M, a brief history of the system in case study format can be found here (pdf pages 55-73).
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RLBH said:
Colonial-Marine said:
Wasn't the HMMWV Avenger was the "light" component of FAADS-LOS?
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The notional divisional FAADS battalion seems to have had three 'heavy' batteries with one platoon of six FOG-M launchers and two platoons of six ADATS Bradleys, one battery to accompany each brigade in the forward area, and one 'light' battery with three platoons of twelve Avengers for rear area defence.

Alongside that, there was to have been a divisional anti-tank battalion with 36 FOG-M launchers which could carry out air defence fires as a secondary mission. When this was being discussed, the FOG-M launcher for the heavy division looks to have had twelve cells on an MLRS-based chassis.
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If anybody can find at least a depiction of the LONGFOG launcher that would be neat as heck.
 
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Could this have catalyzed earlier drone adoption?
It is occasionally argued that both FOG and drones suffered from lack of a clear role in Army TOEs, resulting in somewhat delayed adoption.
 
RLBH said:
The notional divisional FAADS battalion seems to have had three 'heavy' batteries with one platoon of six FOG-M launchers and two platoons of six ADATS Bradleys, one battery to accompany each brigade in the forward area, and one 'light' battery with three platoons of twelve Avengers for rear area defence.

Alongside that, there was to have been a divisional anti-tank battalion with 36 FOG-M launchers which could carry out air defence fires as a secondary mission. When this was being discussed, the FOG-M launcher for the heavy division looks to have had twelve cells on an MLRS-based chassis.
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Realised I never posted my sources for this.

Line-of-Sight-Forward (Heavy) Surrogate Assessment, Frank D. Brown, Rene J. de Pontbriand, and Jerry D. Frydendall, Horizons Technology & U.S Army Research Unit, January 1989

First off, there's a nice depiction of how the FAAD system fits together. LOS-F-H systems providing local air defence to forward units, NLOS systems interdicting aircraft further back, and LOS-R systems defending rear area elements against leakers. LOS-F-H became the XM1069 Bradley ADATS, and LOS-R became the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger.

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A Proposed Analytic Filter Model for use in FAADS Force Mix Analysis at the U.S. Army Air Defense Center, Stephen A. Cole, Naval Postgraduate School, September 1989

This document confirms that the FAADS battalion would have 36 LOS-F-H systems, 18 NLOS-CA systems, and 36 LOS-R systems.

At this date, the precise organisation of the FAADS battalion appears to have been unresolved, but it was proposed that LOS-F-H platoons would have three launchers, allowing one per manoeuvre battalion in the division.

Employment and Command and Control for the Non-Line-Of-Signt (NLOS) Missile System, Medward D. McCoy, Naval Postgraduate School, June 1990

This gives the organisation of the divisional anti-tank battalion and of the FAADS battalion, By this date, the organisation seems to have been nailed down a bit more than in the earlier paper. Note that I wasn't quite right about the LOS-F-H platoons: each battery would have three platoons of four ADATS Bradleys.

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This paper is also the source of the heavy tracked NLOS firing unit shown upthread.

McCoy is sceptical about whether the command and control arrangements would be responsive enough for the NLOS-AT battalion to be effective in the secondary counter-air role.
 
It's a pity that the FOG-M and similar developments were cancelled, if they'd entered service I wonder how they'd do in Ukraine?
 
Supposedly the Israelis have had a predecessor to Spike-NLOS in service since sometime in the 1980s although it obviously wouldn't be the same wireless guided missile despite whatever Wikipedia might say. I can't help but think it might have had some relation to US efforts like FOG-M.
 
Article (in German) from 1995 covering POLYPHEM with some good pictures of the camera and cable-spool and a six-round launcher on an armored UNIMOG
Also an older image showing a prototype POLYPHEM
 

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