Embraer KC-390

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Two interesting images I found related to the KC-390 ... the first an older CG showing something like a Litening-pod under forward fuselage :eek: ... is this indeed possible ? ... and second a nice comparison.
 

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It's an official Embraer image, so presumably it is possible. It's part of a proposed Search and Rescue configuration (see the pallet on the ramp marked SAR).
 

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Pretty spiffy lowrider tow frame thing used for the rollout. I guess it's an electric tow tug?
 

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Electric and remote controlled (you can see the guy with the controls walking alongside in some shots.) Seems to be from a company called Mototok
http://www.mototok.com/media-selector.php?session-mediatype=1
 

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We have one of those at our company, they're pretty nice, and yes, they're either radio controlled or there's a remote connected by cable to the motorized platform.


Regarding the very interesting price comparison chart, the KC-390 is a very obvious outlier. I'm sure Embraer will take advantage of their commercial aircraft building practices, but their figure looks very optimistic.
 

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From the company website, here's another example of the tug (Twin 6500 AC-AD Flat):
mototok-twin-flat-with-helicopter-nh90-thumb.jpg


There is also a dedicated military version (for FOLs and the like?):
twin-6500-flat-for-military-thumb.jpg
 

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The Embraer KC-390 made its first flight today on 3 February 2015. :D
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São José dos Campos - SP, February 3, 2015 - Embraer today successfully performed the first flight of the new military transport and aerial refueling jet, the KC-390. Test pilots Mozart Louzada and Marcos Salgado de Oliveira Lima and flight test engineers Raphael Lima and Roberto Becker flew the aircraft for 1 hour and 25 minutes, conducting an evaluation of flying qualities and performance.[...]

Links:
http://airheadsfly.com/2015/02/03/promising-brazilian-airlifter-tanker-makes-first-flight/
https://twitter.com/EmbraerSA/status/562608415177179136
http://www.embraer.com/en-US/ImprensaEventos/Press-releases/noticias/Pages/Embraer-realiza-com-sucesso-o-primeiro-voo-do-transporte-militar-KC390.aspx
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.635390829899751.1073741887.275470169225154&type=1

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/embraer-kc-390-takes-maiden-flight-408635/

Pictures, Video and more Info will be probably posted later on. ;) :)


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http://youtu.be/z9PyzEbU8AI
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First Flight KC-390 - Video from Embraer's YouTube-Channel
Gavião Peixoto - SP, February 3, 2015 - Embraer today successfully performed the first flight of the new military transport and aerial refueling jet, the KC-390. Test pilots Mozart Louzada and Marcos Salgado de Oliveira Lima and flight test engineers Raphael Lima and Roberto Becker flew the aircraft for 1 hour and 25 minutes, conducting an evaluation of flying qualities and performance.
http://youtu.be/rxRDSB7rPnQ
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Nice new promo video of the Embraer KC-390:



www.youtu.be/agw53YqYaoo
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Since this is an actual aircraft program now, shouldn't this be moved to the Aerospace section now? Just asking. :)
 

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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/embraer-kc-390-to-rival-turboprops-in-canadian-fwsar-420304/
 

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No word on the extent of damage as yet, but no airplane ever looks its best when you start covering it with tarps and obscuring its branding...

Flight International - Embraer reports KC-390 runway excursion in Gaviao Peixoto
by Stephen Trimble - 5 May 2018
Embraer’s first KC-390 flight test aircraft ran off the runway during a ground test in Gaviao Peixoto, Brazil, on 5 May, the company says.

The crew of the aircraft exited the aircraft without injury, the company adds.

Embraer has started an investigation to understand what led to the runway excursion. The company also reported the incident to CENIPA, the aircraft accidents investigation and prevention bureau of the Brazilian air force.

Gaviao Peixoto is Embraer's military aircraft production and flight test centre deep in the interior of Sao Paulo state. The airport boasts the longest, publicly accessible runway in the Americas, measuring 4,970m (16,300ft).

The extent of any damage to the KC-390 was not immediately available. . . .
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Here is video of the aircraft at rest posted to YouTube (h/t Alert 5) by Robert Caiafa. Given the aerial view, it looks like the crew had quite a ride. Great to hear no one came to any harm.

YouTube - Robert Caiafa - Protótipo 001 da aeronave KC-390 sai da pista.
 
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/embraer-kc-390-successfully-completes-troop-unloadin-453826/
 

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https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/12/17/boeing-embraer-agree-to-kc-390-joint-venture/
 

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I imagine a sizable marketing push is soon to come, given that up until recently Boeing was reluctant to get further invested in KC-390 without more signs of sales potential in the US. It shall be interesting to see how it develops.
 

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Moose said:
I imagine a sizable marketing push is soon to come, given that up until recently Boeing was reluctant to get further invested in KC-390 without more signs of sales potential in the US. It shall be interesting to see how it develops.

I would think it would be a shoe-in as a KC-130 replacement. (Though I wonder if it's got as good as low-speed ability to deal with refueling CH-53s and V-22s. )
 

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I see more the 390 being used for special missions like drone carrier and retrieval or MEDEVAC back to CONUS
 

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The KC-390 could have really benefitted from the Boeing - Embraer hookup.
 

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The rate of delivery of two military transport jets per year suggests that the Air Force is expected to receive less than 20 aircraft in the future.
Ouch. I wonder where the funds cut from the C-390 Millennium program will be going? Are they being diverted to the new provisionally titled Project KC-X3 program, or something else entirely?
 

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The rate of delivery of two military transport jets per year suggests that the Air Force is expected to receive less than 20 aircraft in the future.
Ouch. I wonder where the funds cut from the C-390 Millennium program will be going? Are they being diverted to the new provisionally titled Project KC-X3 program, or something else entirely?
I hadn't seen the last part of your post.
Yeah probably that this is a factor. But IMOHO that won't preclude any further order to bring back 390's production on track on a latter day (but with a slight increase in price). KC-X3 and KC-390 are two differents products widely apart in the range of military needs. It's a good news that Brasil invests in a long range tanker transport.
Sad for them they missed buying those A340 that France sold at an incredible low price (if you can call it a price).
 

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The rate of delivery of two military transport jets per year suggests that the Air Force is expected to receive less than 20 aircraft in the future.
Ouch. I wonder where the funds cut from the C-390 Millennium program will be going? Are they being diverted to the new provisionally titled Project KC-X3 program, or something else entirely?
Brazil is running out of money. Things were bad, but slowly getting better before COVID. With COVID on the scene... deficit for April 2020 alone was bigger than for the entire 2019 year(IIRC, we had a R$ 90bi deficit in 2019, and a R$ 100bi one for April 2020).

Sad for them they missed buying those A340 that France sold at an incredible low price (if you can call it a price).

I'd be very wary of any 'cheap' French offer; at least for Brazil, these have a way of becoming way more expensive than the money saved in their acquisition(see Foch, Mirage 2000).
 

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On an ironic note though:
Brazil’s GDP surges back to pre-pandemic levels (ft.com, registration or subscription may be required)

Brazil’s GDP surges back to pre-pandemic levels | Financial Times
Brazil’s gross domestic product expanded faster than expected in the first quarter, bringing Latin America’s largest economy back to where it was before the pandemic struck at the end of 2019.
Official data released on Tuesday showed that the economy grew 1.2 per cent from the previous quarter, when it expanded 3.2 per cent. Compared with the same quarter last year, the economy grew 1 per cent.
“The growth was quite surprising if you think that a little less than a month ago most economists believed that there was going to be a fall. This will spur hopes of a faster recovery for Brazil,” said Gustavo Cruz, a strategist at RB Investimentos.

Following the stronger than expected results — which analysts attributed to the country’s booming agricultural sector, an uptick in fixed investment and looser sanitary restrictions — several economists said they were revising their forecasts for annual growth upward to 4 per cent, from about 3 per cent currently.
 

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On an ironic note though:
Brazil’s GDP surges back to pre-pandemic levels (ft.com, registration or subscription may be required)

Brazil’s GDP surges back to pre-pandemic levels | Financial Times
Brazil’s gross domestic product expanded faster than expected in the first quarter, bringing Latin America’s largest economy back to where it was before the pandemic struck at the end of 2019.
Official data released on Tuesday showed that the economy grew 1.2 per cent from the previous quarter, when it expanded 3.2 per cent. Compared with the same quarter last year, the economy grew 1 per cent.
“The growth was quite surprising if you think that a little less than a month ago most economists believed that there was going to be a fall. This will spur hopes of a faster recovery for Brazil,” said Gustavo Cruz, a strategist at RB Investimentos.

Following the stronger than expected results — which analysts attributed to the country’s booming agricultural sector, an uptick in fixed investment and looser sanitary restrictions — several economists said they were revising their forecasts for annual growth upward to 4 per cent, from about 3 per cent currently.
Yes, GDP is currently doing well(may not continue doing so - we may have a power crisis this year). Biggest problem in this case is deficit, though - money is short right now. Still two years of strong growth may give enough breathing room to go back to 28 KC-390s. Time will tell.
 

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Ouch. But considering how badly Brazil's economy got battered by the pandemic this was inevitable. But I firmly believe that once economic conditions improve, they will order a few more aircraft.
 

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Ouch. But considering how badly Brazil's economy got battered by the pandemic this was inevitable. But I firmly believe that once economic conditions improve, they will order a few more aircraft.
They may order more in the future, but I'm far less optimistic of future economic conditions getting better any time soon than I was last time I posted in this thread(I don't think it's likely that Brazil will recover until the end of the decade). Speaking of last time I posted, someone was asking where would the funding saved in buying less KC-390s go. I can now answer this: Gripen. The Brazilian Air Force is cutting KC-390 numbers to guarantee they'll have at least 36 Gripens.
 

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