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Nick Sumner

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Good Morning all!

I am pleased to announce that my book, Drake's Drum, has now been published by Sea Lion Press. The first part, Drake's Drum: The Peace of Amiens, is now available as a Kindle on amazon. Here is a link to the book.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07SW5MMNW

A paper edition will follow soon. The manuscript for Part 2, Drake's Drum: The Reckoning, is complete and awaiting editing while the manuscript for Part 3, Drake's Drum: The Horizon of Our Hopes, is approaching completion. I hope to publish all of them in due time.

I have been given permission to post photographs, fact files and other snippets from the world of Drake's Drum to this forum where I hope they will entertain and amuse. Comment and criticism is welcomed.
 

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I think that calls for some appropriate music to mark the occasion...

 

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Congratulations! I read the preview pages on Amazon and it looks like it will be an exciting trilogy! Best of Luck!
 

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I’m pleased to announce the launch of the Drake’s Drum website today. There are photographs, fact files and all sorts of information to interest and amuse. Links in blue are 'live', links in grey are coming soon. ish.

www.drakesdrum.co.uk

Below is a photograph from the world of Drake's Drum. A Messerschmitt Me 364 bomber above New York City, 23rd June 1945.

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Nick,

since you are planning three parts, will the timeline ultimately extend up to the present day or even beyond?

Best wishes,

Martin
 

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Hi Martin, it's going to go up to about 1979.
 

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'The Montana class battleships were the backbone of the American battle line...'

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As the ships of the Drake's Drum timeline have stimulated a lot of interest on various message boards here are a couple more. These two designs were the main protagonists at TTL's Battle of the River Plate. Graf Spee is based on one of the OTL initial designs for Scharnhorst, Neuentwurf D-02-31. The battle cruisers Invincible and Inflexible are based on a fictional design which I have called 'E3'. It is essentially based on the British K2/K3 design of 1921 OTL but with characteristics of the final G3 design.

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'Essentially conceived as a heavy raider the design of the Hipper class battle cruisers grew out of two inspirations. Though based on the Deutschland type they also owed much to the concept apparently embodied in the design of the Soviet battle cruiser Frunze. Co-operation between the German and Soviet military's was close in the late 20s and early 30s and German designers were very impressed with the Frunze not realising that she was a failure.

Hipper survived the war of 1940, Graf Spee left Germany shortly before the outbreak of hostilities and undertook a lengthy raiding cruise in the South Atlantic. She was sunk on 13th December 1939 at the Battle of the River Plate when she encountered the much faster and more powerful British battle cruiser Invincible. Though she put up a brave fight she was quickly silenced and sank seven minutes after the engagement began with heavy loss of life.'

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This is a picture of HMS Inflexible at the 1933 Fleet Revue.
 

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Those are very well done photo manipulations. They remind me of the work 'Alt Naval' used to do back in the early 2000s.
 

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Thank you Hood. It was Alt_naval's work that got me interested in doing photo manipulations of never-were ships.
 

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More warships from the world of Drake's Drum. These are Photoshopped images of the Amagi class battle cruisers, Atago and Takao. The top image shows Atago shortly after completion, the lower one after her re-construction in the early 1940s. www.drakesdrum.co.uk

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"The design of the Caracciolo class battleships went through several phases and was even changed after the ship was laid down. The Italian Admiralty were unhappy with the placing of the mainmast in the early design, citing the problem of smoke interference from the forefunnel. The decision to move the conning tower and mainmast forward caused a rearrangement of the forward turrets. As well as this, ‘A’ turret was judged to be too near the end of the ship in a position where the movement of the hull in a lively sea would affect gunnery adversely. Also, the height of the turret rear (due to the height of the forecastle) meant that end on fire forward with B turret at 0 degrees elevation was impossible. When ‘A’ turret was moved aft it had little effect on internal arrangements but a two feet reduction in the height of 'A' barbette was acheived because it was further back on the sloping focsle. A small increase in the height of ‘B’ barbette was also made. The photographs show the ship as she was in the late 1920s and after her reconstruction in 1944." www.drakesdrum.co.uk #DrakesDrum #AlternateHistory

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The USN and RN's ultimate heavy cruiser designs. They were never built in our timeline, but in Drake's Drum they will sail the seas. Top: USS Rochester, based on the CA-B design of 1941 (One of the Alaska preliminaries). Below: HMS Warrior, based on Design III of the series of RN heavy cruiser designs of March 1941.

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There are new updates to the Drake's Drum website. The Photographs section has been expanded and Appendix 17: The Royal Navy Air Arm 1932 to 46 has been posted.



Above: A Fairey Firefly Mk II. This aircraft originated with a 1939 Royal Navy specification, NAD925/39A for an interceptor. A parallel project for a two seat fighter with a much thicker wing to specification N.8/39 did not proceed far.



Above: A RAAF Cormorant Mk II at Darwin, 1946. The RAAF used small numbers of ex-Royal Navy Cormorants as land based dive bombers, though the dive bombing role was later supplanted by fighter-bombers. The Cormorant naval dive bomber was based on the Boulton Paul P.96A design.



Above: A Cutlass IIIB of 849 Squadron RN in flight over Singapore 1945. The Cutlass saw action in the early part of the campaign in South East Asia but was phased out by mid 1946.



Above: Above: Hawker Sea Furies. The type's powerful Bristol Gemini engine made it extremely fast.
 

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Some Regia Marina carriers from the Drake's Drum timeline. Top Leonardo Da Vinci after her reconstruction. Bottom, Aquila at sea, 1946.

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Top: An Me 364 bomber prepares to take off. The outboard jetisonable undercarriage legs are in place, suggesting she has a full load. Bottom: A Ju 187 of TragerGruppen 186 from the carrier Strasser.

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Wouldn't such efforts better at home in a whatif site?
AFAIK, here we are normally trying to get rid of false informations and fakes, not manufacturing them...
 

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I hear you, this is the right section if it must be posted anywhere.
Still, the repeated posting of deliberately forged pictures --on SPF-- somehow feels wrong and makes me cringe.
 

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dan_inbox, I don't mean to make you cringe. I'm not representing what these are, I seek merely to entertain. I also asked the moderators first.
 

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I know. And you're upfront about it. It's just me, over-sanctifying the too-few places where genuine, professional info thrive.
And congrats for your forged photos, they are disturbingly believable.

I'll keep cringeing, but don't mind me.
 

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There is a new update to the Drake's Drum website. Appendix 14: The Armada Espana 1939 to 48 has been posted.

Below, two shots of the battleship Pelayo. Initially named Impero, she was built for the Regia Marina but sold to the Armada in 1941 . The purchase was financed with loans from the Reichsbank. The ‘Super Washington type’ heavy cruiser Andalucia was built at El Ferrol. Her construction was an unhurried affair, but she was both fast and powerful.

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Very impressive, but I think the new Spanish Armada would end up like the old Spanish Armada.
 

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Here are two more Photoshopped images of warships from the Drake’s Drum timeline. The first is the Soviet battleship Frunze (formerly the Poltava) which has undergone a comprehensive reconstruction to become a battleship. Although certainly ambitious, this reconstruction was actually contemplated in OTL, though it was never carried out. The second is HMAS Endeavour, seen here running her trials in 1926. In Drake’s Drum, HMAS Australia becomes a museum ship and an incomplete Hood class battle cruiser is purchased by the Royal Australian Navy (with a little help from the RN) to replace it. There is a significant redesign, the ship becomes flush decked, the height of the aft barbettes are increased, the secondary armament is modified and a more modern style of conning tower is fitted. There would need to be more hull volume aft to compensate for the extra weight and the ships draught would increase. Top speed would be slightly reduced.


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The ‘photographs’ section of the Drake’s Drum website has also been updated and you can read the full story of the Frunze in the 'Peterson's World Fighting Ships' section of the Appendices.
 
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