Caudron's rare aircraft

[hesham]

Dear Jemiba,

I will ask you about anther fighter,it was Caurdon C.17 , a licence built Descamps aircraft,
did this aircraft was the Descamps D.17 original or not ?.

 

[Jemiba]

Sorry, can't find a Caudron C.17 fighter, nor the Descamps D.17.
Regarding Green/Swanborough ,the first mentioned Descamps design is the
Descamps 27, which was designed by E.A. Descamps, when he returned to
France after the russian revolution. As the chosen winner was the Nieuport 29,
further developmnet of this type was cancelled and I couldn't find any clue for
other Descamps aircraft.
But, as I told you before, the pre-war era is, although very interesting, really not
my playground. Perhaps you should post this question in the french aeroforum?
( http://www.aerostories.org/~aeroforums/)

 

[Maveric]

Hi all,


the Caudron C.59 was the basic model for some other Caudron aircraft.
1) C.157 built round a C.59 airframe
2) C.320, the C.157 was re-engined with a Renault 9A and redesignated C.320
3) C.490, one of the C.320 was re-engined yet again with a Renault 6Pfi from a "Simoun" an redesignated C.490
I search for drawings and pics of this three aircraft... B)


Thanks, Maveric

 

[toura]

Hi Maveric

From an old "aviation magazine"

but.......in French....

 

[Maveric]

Good post toura :-*

 

[Jemiba]

From André Hauet "Les Avions Caudron" tome 1, Lela Press, the C.320:

 

[Maveric]

Wow, thanks Jens!!!

 

[hesham]

Dear Jemiba,

I will ask you about anther fighter,it was Caurdon C.17 , a licence built Descamps aircraft,
did this aircraft was the Descamps D.17 original or not ?.

Correction;


the Caudron C.170 was a licence built Descamps-Brunet DB-16,a two seat recce
aircraft.

 

[Maveric]

Can I see a picture or a drawing of this DB.16? B)

 

[hesham]

Can I see a picture or a drawing of this DB.16? B)

Of course my dear Maveric,


http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1924/1924%20-%200473.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1924/1924%20-%200474.html

 

[Maveric]

Hmmmm, I know the A.2, but the designation D.B.16 is new for me!?? Any source?


Thanks Maveric

 

[hesham]

My dear Maveric,


the source is Trait D'union magazine.

 

[Stargazer]

Like the German Fieseler Storch, the American Ryan Dragonfly, the Soviet OKA-38 and many other such aircraft conceived in the late 1930s, the Caudron C.880 tandem two-seater artillery liaison aircraft was developed in 1940 as part of a program for an observation aircraft (Obs 2) with STOL capability and low-speed/high-speed flight capability.

Requirements were as follows:

• Maximum speed: 200 km/h
• Minimum speed: 50 km/h
• Obstacle clearance 8 m: 100 m after zero point
• Folding wings for road transport
• High visibility for the crew
• Rearward defensive armament

Four competing designs were submitted in 1940: the Gourdou 90; the SFAN 11; the Levasseur PL-400; and the Caudron C.880. The dramatic turn of events, with France's capitulation to Germany, did not allow for the continuation of the program.
Only one C.880 prototype was built, powered by a 240 hp Renault 6Q-03 engine and fitted with a fixed gear. It flew some time in 1940 before being scrapped in June of that year.


Specifications and performance:

• Wingspan: 14.80 m
• Length: 10.25 m
• Height: 3.63 m
• Wing area: 31 sq. m.
• Minimum speed: 60 km/h
• Maximum speed: 230 km/h

Source: Le Trait d'Union N°179, May-June 1998.

 

[burunduk]

Skyblazer, thank you for the nice draft. Please, change 31 sq.ft. to 31 sq.m. :-*

Hasn't somebody pictures of C.65 and C.66 float biplanes?

 

[Stargazer]

Skyblazer, thank you for the nice draft. Please, change 31 sq.ft. to 31 sq.m. :-*

Ooops!! Done. Thanks for noticing, and glad you enjoyed the post.

 

[hesham]

Hasn't somebody pictures of C.65 and C.66 float biplanes?

I have a picture to C.65 on floats.

 

[burunduk]

hesham, thank you a lot!

 

[patvig]

Sorry, can't find a Caudron C.17 fighter, nor the Descamps D.17...

Descamps 17 or DB-17 is here :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descamps_17

 

[hesham]

hesham, thank you a lot!

Thank you Burunduk,


and we can merge those topics;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9932.0.html