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Hallo,
some Bristol helicopters:
model-177:civil version of Sycamore (MK4) but fitted with taller landing gear
and four doors.
model-194:Belvedere helicopter fitted with rear mounted wing,project.
model-199:convertible helicopter side-by-side rotors,shaft driven by four
turbines,project only.
model-203:Sycamore helicopter with enlarge slab sided,project.
model-214:medium-lift helicopter also with enlarge slab sided,project.
 

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Hi,
forgive me ,it is Bristol-214 and not Bristol-213.
anther projects to Bristol:
model-179 Freighter:project for a twin boom version.
model-179A Freighter:project for a version with upswept tail and ramp-loading door.
model-216 Freighter:project for a car ferry with two Dart turboprops.
model-218:twin engined four seat light aircraft,project only.
model-219:single engined five seat project of light aircraft.
model-220: 5/6 seat twin engined executive aircraft,project only.
 

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Al I could find drawings of, are the Bristol 179 twin boom design and the 179A,
unfortunately only as internal layout drawing.
But, as a bonus, the Bristol 205, medium range jet liner ;)

(All drawings from R.Payne "Stuck on the drawing board", highly recommended !)
 

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Hi,
no one hear about BAe-147 project !.

From my dear lark;
Bristol type-180 :twin engined supersonic fighter project, developed from
type-177 with two Olympus turbojets.
Bristol type-181 :was 30/50 passenger twin rotor helicopter with two Proteus
engines,project only.
Bristol type-184 :delta wing research project with one Nene turbojet engine.
 

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Also from my dear lark,

Bristol type-187 :was type-175 replacement, with four Orion turboprops
project only.
Bristol type-189 :was developed from type-175 as reconnaissance maritime
project.
Bristol type-195 :high wing rear-loading military freighter with type-175 wing
and four Proteus engines.
 

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All Bristol projects are from my dear lark,

Bristol:
type-196 :was developed from type-188 as flying bomb, with two
BE.36 engines.
type-197 :transport study project for boundary layer control.
type-201 :long range transport project,developed from type-200.
type-202 :medium range low altitude bomber with two Olympus
engines.
 

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Hallo all,

there are two pics of Bristol aircraft projects, but I have no Type-number. Do you know the correct designation?
1) Bristol 100-Ton Bomber evtl. Type 168 ?
2) Bristol H.7/42

Source: Bristol Aircraft since1910/Putnam )

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According to the following sources:

BSP Fighters and Bombers 1935-50 (Tony Buttler)

Giants of the Sky (Bill Gunston)

The British Aircraft Specifications File (Air-Britain Publication)

seems that no Type Number was raised for that 100-ton bomber

I haven't found which design match with Type 168 number (Type 167 is Brabazon I/II and Type 169 is the Buckingham)


H.7/42 is Torpedo Bomber developed from Beaufighter required to meet OR.117. Dated 3/12/42 and Issued 10/12/42 to Bristol. Type number is 164: Bristol Brigand.
 

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Many thanks my dear pometablava ;D

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Hi Maveric,

The Bristol type-168 was a bomber project developed
from type-167 Brabazon.
And we can speak about Bristol types;

1 Scout C single seat tractor biplane with 80 hp Gnome.
2 Scout D as above,modified with 80 hp Gnome.
3 Scout D ,, ,, ,with 80 hp Le Rhone.
4 Scout D ,, ,, ,with 100 hp Mono-Gnome.
5 Scout D ,, ,, ,with 130 hp Clerget.
6 TTA two seat fighter biplane with two 120 hp Beardmore.
7 F3A three seat fighter biplane with 250 hp Rolls-Royce.
8 S2A two seat biplane scout with 110 hp Clerget.
9 R2A two seat recce biplane with 120 hp Beardmore.
10 M1A single seat monoplane scout with 110 hp Clerget.
11 M1B as above,modified with 110 Clerget or Le Rhone.
12 F2A two seat fighter biplane with 190 hp Rolls-Royce.
13 MR1 two seat recce biplane with 140 hp Hispano.
14 F2B Fighter I/II two seat fighter biplane with 190/275 Falcon.
15 F2B Fighter as above with 200 hp Sunbeam Arab.
16 F2B Fighter as above with 200 hp Hispano-Suiza.
17 F2B Fighter as above with 300 hp ,, ,, .
18 Scout E single seat biplane scout with 200 hp "cruciform".
19 Scout single seat pusher biplane with 200 ho "cruciform".
20 M1C single seat monoplane scout with 110 Le Rhone.
 

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Bristol 168 - military variant of the 167.
( no mention that is was a bomber.Could also be a cargoplane.)

p.s. 100ton design with butterfly tail was Bristol's second attempt for a 100ton bomber.
Butterly tail was also used in the first concepts for the 167 Brabazon.

sources: Bristol aircraft since 1910-Putnam
Flight-19 September 1949.
 

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21 Scout F single seat tractor biplane scout with 200 hp Arab.
22 F2C two seat fighter-recce biplane with 200 hp Salmson.
22A F2C as above with 300 hp ABC Dragonfly.
22B F2C as above with 230 hp Bentley BR 2.
23 Badger two seat biplane fighter with 300 hp Dragonfly.
23X Badger X experimental biplane with 230 hp Puma.
24 Braemar I triplane day bomber with four 230 hp Puma.
25 Braemar II as above with four 400 hp Liberty 12
26 Pullman triplane 14-seat transport with four 400 hp Liberty.
27 F2B Coupe two seat coupe tourer with 275 hp Falcon II.
28 Puma Coupe three seat coupe tourer with 230 Puma.
29 PT2 S two seat open tourer with 230 hp Puma.
30 Baby MK I single seat sporting biplane with 60 hp Gagfly.
31 Grampus MK I 7-seat /cargo tractor biplane with 500 hp Tiger.
32 Bullet single seat sporting biplane 450 hp Jupiter.
33 Pullman (40) triplane 40-seat transport with four 500 hp Tiger.
34 F2B Seaplane three seat tourer seaplane with 180 hp Viper.
35 RAF Type XXI two seat ship seaplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
 

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36 Seely two seat coupe touring biplane with 230 hp Puma.
37 Tramp triplane Spares-Carrier with four 230 Puma.
38 AH2 two seat fighter seaplane for USA with 180 hp Viper.
39 AH1 single seat fighter seaplane for USA with 180 hp Viper.
40 Puma fighter F.2B MK I late production with 230 Puma.
41 Beardmore Seapalne two seat open tourer seaplane with 120 hp Beardmore.
42 Grampus MK II four seat commercial biplane with 140 hp RAF 4A.
43 ,, MK IV 8-seat/cargo biplane with four 140 hp Lucifer.
44 Tramp Boat triplane flying boat with four 230 hp Puma.
45 Scandinavian Tourer two seat tourer,wheels/skis with 230 hp Puma.
46 Baby MK II single seat sporting biplane with 40 hp Ounce.
46A Baby MK III as above with 60 hp Le Rhone.
47 PT3 S three seat open tourer with 230 hp Puma.
48 Puma Seaplane as above seaplane version.
49 Lucifer 3 Seater three seat touring biplane with 140 Lucifer.
50 Mail Carrier triplane mail carrier with four 400 hp Liberty.
 

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51 Lucifer Boat 4-seat pusher biplane flying boat with Lucifer.
52 MFA/Bullfinch single seat fighter monoplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
53 MFB/ ,, two seat fighter biplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
54 HP Seaplane single seat float monoplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
55 (2/20) tractor biplane lone range bomber with Condor engine.
56 (5/20) biplane troop carrier with two 450 hp Lion.
57 Grampus MK V cargo/passenger biplane with two 200 hp Hall-Scott.
58 8-seat passenger/cargo biplane with 400 hp Liberty.
59 as above with 450 hp Jupiter.
60 LT3 three seat coupe monoplane with 140 hp Lucifer.
61 three seat pusher amphibian monoplane with 450 Jupiter.
62 Ten-Seater passenger biplane with 450 hp Lion.
63 single seat sporting monoplane with 5 hp engine.
64 single sewat high speed monoplane with 3,000 hp engine.
65 single seat man-powered pusher biplane.
 

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66 pusher hydrovane flying boat with 450 hp Lion.
67 two seat fighter-recce biplane with 450 hp Lion.
68 three seat fleet spotter biplane with 450 hp Lion.
69 two seat recce biplane with 450 hp Lion.
70 two seat recce monoplane with 450 hp Lion.
71 three seat triplane torpedo-carrier with 1000 hp Cub.
72 single seat racer monoplane with 510 hp Jupiter.
73 three seat touring monoplane with 140 hp Lucifer.
74 26-seat commercial triplane with three 450 hp Jupiter.
75 Ten-Seater single engined biplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
75A as above ,cargo version with 450 hp Jupiter.
76 developed from F2B with 425 hp Jupiter.
76A as above,with Alcohol/petrol fuel systems.
76B Swedish Jupiter fighter as type-76,no armament.Carburetter heating.
77 M1D as type-20 but with 140 hp Lucifer.
78 Fighter Type C two seat fighter biplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
79 Brandon MK I RAF ambulance version of type-75 with 425 hp Jupiter.
80 Fighter Type D two seat high performance biplane with Jupiter engine.
 

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81 advanced trainer version of type 29 with 230 hp Puma.
82 coastal defence torpedo biplane with two 450 hp Lion.
83 two seat light trainer biplane with 140 hp Lucifer.
84 Bloodhound two seat fighter biplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
85 Seely as type 36 but with 435 hp Jupiter supercharged.
86 open two seat tourer (F2B) with 275 hp Falcon.
86A as above but three seater.
87 three seat recce fleet biplane with Jupiter engine.
88 Bulgarian Tourer two saet tourer (F2B) with 180 hp Viper.
89 two seat advanced school trainer (F2B) with 320 hp Jupiter.
90 Berkeley MK I two seat day bomber with 650 hp Condor.
91 Brownie MK I two seat light monoplane with 35 hp Cherub.
91A Brownie as above,steel wing and increase fuel.
91B Brownie MK II as above,with furhter modifications.
92 Laboratory two seat research biplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
93 Boarhound MK I two seat fighter bipalne with 425 hp Jupiter.
93A Beaver as above ,modified with 450 hp Jupiter.
94 single seat pusher biplane fighter with Jupiter engine.
95 Bagshot two seat cannon fighter monoplane with two 450hp Jupiter.
 

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96 F2B MK III devloped from F2B with 275 hp Falcon.
96A F2B MK IV further modified,HP slots, etc.
97 commercial biplane for Imperial Airways with one Jupiter emgine.
98 Brownie MK III single seat racer monoplane with 36 hp Cherub.
99 Badminton single seat racer biplane with 510 hp Jupiter.
99A Badminton as above, modified with 525 hp Jupiter.
100 commercial biplane for Imperial Airways with two Jupiter.
101 two seat fighter biplane with Jupiter/Mercury.
102 Badminton F single seat fighter version of type-99 with Jupter.
103 single seat high speed monoplane with one Mercury.
104 single seat light monoplane with 36 hp Cherub.
105 Bulldog (F9/26) single seat fighter biplane with Jupiter/Mercury.
106 two seat general purpose biplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
107 Bullpup (F20/27) single seat fighter biuplane with 480 hp Mercury.
108 B19/27 night bomber biplane with two Jupiter.
109 two seat long range biplane with 480 Jupiter.
110 four seat cabin commercial biplane with one 220 hp Titan.
110A five seat cabin commercial biplane with one 315 hp Neptune.
 

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111A cabin transport monoplane with three Jupiters.
111B cabin transport monoplane with three Titans.
112 F29/27 single seat cannon fighter monoplane with one Mercury.
113 commercial biplane for Imperial Airways with three JUPITERS.
114 8-seat commercial cabin biplane with 490 hp Jupiter.
114A 7-seat commercial cabin biplane with 490 hp Jupiter.
115 C16/28 troop-carrier monoplane with three Jupiters.
116 C16/28 troop-carrier biplane with three Jupiters.
117 freight carrier with two Jupiters.
118 two seat general pupose biplane with 590 hp Jupiter.
119 two seat trainer version of type-105 with Mercury.
120 G4/31 two seat general purpose turret biplane with 650 hp Pegasus.
121 G4/31 GP/Torpedo biplane developed from type-120 with Pegasus.
122 GP/Torpedo biplane ,as above,pilot ahead of wings with Pegasus.
123 F7/30 single seat fighter biplane with 695 hp Goshawk.
124 Bulldog TM two seat advanced trainer Biplane with 450 hp Jupiter.
125 G4/31 two seat GP/Torpedo monopalne with Pegasus.
 

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126 G4/31 as type-125 but high wing and with pegasus engine.
127 F7/30 single seat monoplane fighter with Kestrel.
128 F7/30 as above with Mercury engine.
129 F7/30 single seat pusher monoplane fighter with Mercury.
130 Bombay (C26/31) 27-seat troop-carrier monoplane with
two 750 hp Pegasus.
131 B9/32 twin engined day bomber with two Pegasus.
132 two seat turret fighter monoplane with Hydra engine.
133 F7/30 single seat fighter monoplane with 640 hp Mercury.
134 high speed mail carrier monoplane with one Pegasus.
135 8-seat high speed monoplane transport with two 500hp Aquila.
136 P27/32 two seat day bomber monoplane with Pegasus.
137A 14-seat passenger carrier monoplane with two Pegasus.
137B as above freight/passengers with two Pegasus.
138 high altitude monoplane with retractable u/c.
138A 2/34 single seat monoplane.Supercharged Pegasus.
138B 2/34 as above,two seat and with Kestrel engine.
139 single engined freighter biplane with Pegasus.
140 F5/33 two seat pusher fighter.Nose turret and Pegasus engine.
 

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141 F22/33 three seat fighter with nose turret and two Aquila.
142 Britain First 6-seat high speed transport with two 650 Mercury.
142M Blenheim MK I three seat day bomber with two 840 hp Mercury.
143 10-seat transport with two 500 hp Aquila.
143F as above but intended as multi-purpose aircraft withtwo 650
hp Mercury.
144 B3/34 night bomber developed from type-130 with two Pegasus.
145A long range monoplane.Fuselage tanks,with two Phoenix.
145B as above but with wing tanks.
146 F5/34 single seat fighter with 840 hp Mercury.
147 F9/35 two seat turret fighter with Pegasus.
148 A39/34 two seat army co-operation monoplane with Pegasus.
148A as above,test aircraft with Hercules or Taurus.
148B as above,test aircraft with Taurus.
149 first layout,developed from type-142M.
Blenheim IV/Bolingbroke,developed from type-142M as day bomber
with two Mercury.
150 M15/35 developed Blenheim series with two Mercuey.
151 35/35 single seat high speed monoplane with Hercules.
152 Beaufort twin engined recce/torpedo.Taurus.
153 F37/35 single set cannon fighter with Hercules.
153A F37/35 twin engine single seat cannon fighter with Aquila.
154 24-seat high wing civil monoplane with four Aquila.
155 B18/38 twin engined wood/metal bomber,one Taurus.
 

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156 Beaufighter twin engined strike fighter with Hercules/Merlin.
157 Beaufighter-bomber three seat bomber version with two Hercules.
158 Beaufighter III/IV slim-fuselage version of type-156 with Hercules/
Merlin.
159 B1/39 four engined heavy bomber.Hercules.
160 Bisley/Blenheim V developed type-149,(B6/40).Two 950hp Mercury.
161 B7/40 two seat light bomber.Hercules or Melin.
162 Beaumont developed version of type-161.
163 Buckingham developed Beaumont,B2/41.Two 2,400hp Centaurus.
164 Brigand torpedo-fighter/bomber.Two 2,500hp Centaurus.
165 Brigand T.2 dual control trainer cersion of type-164.
166 Buckmaster dual control trainer version of type-163.
167 Brabazon north atlantic airliner.
168 bomber development of type-167.
169 Buckingham PR photographic-reccevariant of type-163.
170 Freighter/Wayfarer twin-engined high wing monoplane.Two
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171 Sycamore single engined single rotor helicopter.
172 B35/46 four/six engined long range jet bomber.
173 E4//47 twin engined twin rotor helicopter.
174 E8/47 MK I scale model of type-172.Glider.
,, MK II as above powered aircraft with Nene.
,, MK III research version with boundary layer control.
175 Britannia long range turboprop airliner.Four Proteus.
176 E8/47/2 swept wing research aircraft.Avon engine.
177 F3/48 twin engined jet fighter.Two Olympus.
178 F124T rocket fighter.
179 Freighter replacement for type-170.Twin boom.Two Hercules.
179A ,, as above,upswept rear fuselage.
179B ,, twin boom deleted,Centaures engines.
180 supersonic fighter developed from type-177 with two Olympus.
181 BEA Helicopter 30/50-seat twin rotor helicopter.Two Proteus.
182 Red Repier 3short range expendable bomber for UB109/SP19.
183 ER110T reasearch aircraft.Variable sweepback.Nene.
184 research aircraft with delta wing .Nene.
185 research aircraft with rocket-powered.Spectre.
 

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186 B126T long range low level bomber.OR324
187 Britannia 600 type-1785 replacement.Four Orion turboprops.
188 ER134T high speed research aircraft,steel.Gyron Jr.
188N ER134T(Naval) carrier-borne version.Missiles.
189 developed from type-175 for Maritime Recce.Nomads.
190 HR.144T ultra-light helicopter with tip jets.
191 NA43/HR146D naval development of type-173.Leonides Major/Gazelle.
192 Belvedere RAF development of type-173.Gazelle engines.
193 H150 RAF anti-submarine development.
194 BEA Helicopter developed type-192 as civil version.Gnome engines.
195 high wing rear-loading military freighter with type-175 wing.Four
Proteus.
196 developed type-188 as flying bomb.two BE56.
197 BLC Transport various studies for boundary layer control.
198 various studies for SST. "M" wing/Gothic wing.
199 tilt-rotor convertiplane as VTOL design with four Tyne turboprops.
200 BEA Transport medium range class-various engine layouts.
 

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201 BOAC transport long range development of type-200 for BOAC.
202 medium range low altitude bomber.Two Olympus.
203 Sycamore Relp. 8-seat single-roto helicopter.Gnome.
204 GOR339 supersonic tactical strike recce.Two Olympus.
204F F155T supersinic two-seat fighter version.
205 Med. range rear-engined transport aircraft developed from type-200.
Various engines.
206 NBMR2 maritime recce.Two Tyne.
207 NBMR2 developed from type-206 with two Mamba and one BE.53.
208 GOR351 V/STOL freighter,20,000 1b payload.
209 GOR351 as above ,fan lift.
210 smaller type-208,10,000 1b payload.
211 short range version of type-205 with wing engines.
212 Military strategic transport.
213 STA (M 3.0) mach 3 supersonic transport aircraft.
214 utility helicopter developed from type-203,single-rotor.Two Gnome.
215 X197T slender delta research glider.
216 freighter/car ferry etc. replacement of type-170.Two Dart.
217 OR345 VTOL strike recce aircraft.BE.53.
218 light communications aircraft.Two Cont.
219 5-seat executive aircraft.One Cont.
220 5-seat ,, ,, .Two Cont.
BAC 221 ER193D Fairey FD.2 converted to ogee wing.Avon.
,, 222 GOR351 Lockheed C-130 developed with BLC.Four Tyne.
,, 223 slender delta mach 2.2 civil transport.
,, 224 NBMR4 V/STOL transport for NATO.Two Pegasus.
,, 225 GOR351 STOL transport for RAF.Four RB168.
,, ,, GOR357 developed version.Maritime recce.
 

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hesham said:
204 GOR339 supersonic tactical strike recce.Two Olympus.
204F F155T supersinic two-seat fighter version.
Thanks for the list Hesham, but I think GOR339 was issued at least 2 years after the 1957 Defense Review axe cancelled the F155T and other projects. I can't see how an aircraft designed later than 1957 can be designated 'F155T'.

However, I do remember reading in a 60's book on Bristol aircraft of a 204 derived aircraft being offered to Canada as a 'Commonwealth Fighter'. However, the illustration was just of the GOR339 project.

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Hi starviking,

I think the Bristol-204 was from GOR339 contenders and
the new book speak about that,also see;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1988.0.html
 

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Did the Bristol Superfreighter variant get a special Type 170 sub-designation?
 

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It was known as the Type 170 Mk.32

Regards Bailey.

From "Bristol Aircraft since 1910 - C.H.Barnes - Putnams".
 

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Hi Folks,

I'm doing a bit of research for some new pages at www.adf-serials.com.au and am looking for any info and drawings of both:

  • Bristol 179B (I see we already have a drawing of the 179A - very nice!)
    Bristol 195
    Shorts PD.16/1

All three types were offered and considered by the RAAF during the selection process for a C-47 replacement in 1954-55.

Ultimately, the C-130A was selected for RAAF service and 12 were purchased.

All help will be acknowledged online.

Many thanks

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There's a thread on the PD16 here
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,10489.msg125708.html
 

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Many thanks Schneiderman,

The version of the PD.16 offered to the RAAF was designated PD.16/1 and I have wondered how his differed from the PD.16.

As always - there is more to discover!

Cheers

BC
 
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