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"But then we wouldn't have B-21 by next year" - GatesAs I’ve posted before and will post again we’d have between 400-500 F-22s by now..........
"But then we wouldn't have B-21 by next year" - GatesAs I’ve posted before and will post again we’d have between 400-500 F-22s by now..........
30-40 million a bird.
Holmes:
View: https://youtu.be/7du-vfIWl2A?t=2814
auto-transcript (slightly cleaned up):
The f-15c is a prime example of that the airplane has structural problems that will require replacement
of major structural members the launcher on that run lengthwise in the airplane followed by the wings being replaced and
then followed by bulkheads on the center fuselage which means it'd be better to buy a new airplane than to try to work
through those repairs that's important walk through we originally budgeted approximately a million per plane after
the knowledge that came through long structural what does that take the number up to well so the the the exact
number will depend on the time that you. go after but that million per plane was based on fuselage longerons and as
you add the wings and the fuselage into it the initial estimates we dealt with we're in the tens of millions per
airplane I think as we work with the prime contractor now you can get that number probably down around 10 million
or so per airplane but that's in a estimation you don't really know until you open the airplanes up
F-22 Restart Study:
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30-40 million a bird.
Holmes:
View: https://youtu.be/7du-vfIWl2A?t=2814
auto-transcript (slightly cleaned up):
The f-15c is a prime example of that the airplane has structural problems that will require replacement
of major structural members the launcher on that run lengthwise in the airplane followed by the wings being replaced and
then followed by bulkheads on the center fuselage which means it'd be better to buy a new airplane than to try to work
through those repairs that's important walk through we originally budgeted approximately a million per plane after
the knowledge that came through long structural what does that take the number up to well so the the the exact
number will depend on the time that you. go after but that million per plane was based on fuselage longerons and as
you add the wings and the fuselage into it the initial estimates we dealt with we're in the tens of millions per
airplane I think as we work with the prime contractor now you can get that number probably down around 10 million
or so per airplane but that's in a estimation you don't really know until you open the airplanes up
F-22 Restart Study:
View attachment 639315
That's just for the fuselage.
Air Force announces Guard locations for F-35A, F-15EX
The Air Force plans to replace the Air National Guard’s aging F-15C Eagles in Florida and Oregon with the service’s newest air superiority aircraft.
Jacksonville Air National Guard Base, Florida, will begin receiving F-35 Lightning IIs in 2024;
It’s nice to see the eagle finally have some turkey feathers, neat.
It can carry 7 x 2000 pounders. ?!?![]()
Joining Up on the F-15EX - Air Force Magazine
The Air Force prepares to welcome the first new F-15s since 2004.www.airforcemag.com
Its just a formality, in the process of declaring EX and its modules exportable without specific country based adjustments.Can the EX win in India?
Question: why does 15EX use GE-129 engines with thrust of 13.1 tons instead of more powerful GE-132 egines that have 14.5 tons?
F-15EX has CFTs by default and new quadruple racks are also more draggy compared to dual missile pylons?
Good Day All -
I was there yesterday - first day out of quarantine and Boeing flew a bunch of aircraft for meF-15QA 006 and 008 flew, 008 for the first time and without CFTs and later a Kuwaiti F/A-18E went up as well. Catbird flew off to Palmdale and EX flew early afternoon. Felt great to be out of the house, in the sun and listening, and feeling!, jet engines!
Enjoy the Day! Mark
Source:Boeing said:Boeing F-15EX First Flight
Welcome to the skies, F-15EX! Get an EX-cellent view of the #F15EX as it completes its first flight. The fighter aircraft is built on a digital thread, allowing the U.S. Air Force to add future tech and upgrade capabilities. [...]
https://youtu.be/kJEQse4Aq4Q
https://youtu.be/RkD94RL4h5k
Hi Ken -Good Day All -
I was there yesterday - first day out of quarantine and Boeing flew a bunch of aircraft for meF-15QA 006 and 008 flew, 008 for the first time and without CFTs and later a Kuwaiti F/A-18E went up as well. Catbird flew off to Palmdale and EX flew early afternoon. Felt great to be out of the house, in the sun and listening, and feeling!, jet engines!
Enjoy the Day! Mark
Hi Mark, do you have any idea what program the Catbird is flying in support of right now?
Ken
I suspect that the GE-132 engines were developed specifically for the F-16E/F for UAE and development was paid for by UAE, so any use elsewhere would require a royalty be paid to UAE. IIRC, F-16E/F was a strictly commercial sale with minimal US government involvement.Question: why does 15EX use GE-129 engines with thrust of 13.1 tons instead of more powerful GE-132 egines that have 14.5 tons?
F-15EX has CFTs by default and new quadruple racks are also more draggy compared to dual missile pylons?
Indonesia's diversity will soon eclipse India's procurement![]()
Indonesia Could Be First Non-USAF Customer for F-15EX - Air Force Magazine
Indonesia plans to buy the Boeing F-15EX, expecting to take delivery by 2022, according to press reports from Jakarta.www.airforcemag.com
AFAIK the F-15EX they are planning to buy are using the carry-over budget which was originally allocated for the procurement of Su-35s from 2018, hence the small number of only 8 jets.Indonesia's diversity will soon eclipse India's procurement![]()
Indonesia Could Be First Non-USAF Customer for F-15EX - Air Force Magazine
Indonesia plans to buy the Boeing F-15EX, expecting to take delivery by 2022, according to press reports from Jakarta.www.airforcemag.com
F-16A/B Block 15 upgrade
F-16C/D Block 25 upgrade
Su-27
Su-30
Hawk 200
T-50
Super Tucano
AH-64E
~potential acquisitions~
Su-35
Rafale
Ex-Austrian Eurofighters
V-22
F-15EX
The palm oil business must be doing very well?
AFAIK the F-15EX they are planning to buy are using the carry-over budget which was originally allocated for the procurement of Su-35s from 2018, hence the small number of only 8 jets.![]()
Indonesia Could Be First Non-USAF Customer for F-15EX - Air Force Magazine
Indonesia plans to buy the Boeing F-15EX, expecting to take delivery by 2022, according to press reports from Jakarta.www.airforcemag.com
Austrian Typhoons were also one of the options they looked into for this replacement but soon fell through because of parliamentary opposition.
I really doubt that they could afford V-22s, which costed Japan a total program cost of $ 3 billion for 17 Ospreys. I've heard that the flyaway cost of these birds are way cheaper than that which should mean that the supporting infrastructure for the tilt-rotor structure is surely very expensive and also it just costs more when sold over seas in general.
So it should just be
F-16A/B Block 15 upgrade
F-16C/D Block 25 upgrade
Su-27
Su-30
Hawk 200
T-50i upgrade (upgrading to FA-50 equivalent)
Super Tucano
AH-64E
~potential acquisitions~
Rafale
F-15EX
I've also heard that they are planning to replace Hawks soon with something else but I'm not so sure if that's correct.
Should admit that its still a very wide range of aircraft they are using and going to use.
so what do you think the Indonesian AF should standardize around by 2030-2040?AFAIK the F-15EX they are planning to buy are using the carry-over budget which was originally allocated for the procurement of Su-35s from 2018, hence the small number of only 8 jets.![]()
Indonesia Could Be First Non-USAF Customer for F-15EX - Air Force Magazine
Indonesia plans to buy the Boeing F-15EX, expecting to take delivery by 2022, according to press reports from Jakarta.www.airforcemag.com
Austrian Typhoons were also one of the options they looked into for this replacement but soon fell through because of parliamentary opposition.
I really doubt that they could afford V-22s, which costed Japan a total program cost of $ 3 billion for 17 Ospreys. I've heard that the flyaway cost of these birds are way cheaper than that which should mean that the supporting infrastructure for the tilt-rotor structure is surely very expensive and also it just costs more when sold over seas in general.
So it should just be
F-16A/B Block 15 upgrade
F-16C/D Block 25 upgrade
Su-27
Su-30
Hawk 200
T-50i upgrade (upgrading to FA-50 equivalent)
Super Tucano
AH-64E
~potential acquisitions~
Rafale
F-15EX
I've also heard that they are planning to replace Hawks soon with something else but I'm not so sure if that's correct.
Should admit that its still a very wide range of aircraft they are using and going to use.
The KFX is the projected replacement for Hawks.
Relying on media or even our own officials are not really a good indicator on what being bought like what happened with Su-35 which contract they never cancel but never made effective either, same as Kilo class submarine which contracted but never made effective but they choose to screwing around trying to find used Kilo class which obviously not in good condition, while Russian actually offered new 636's back then with state credit.
Considering our arms procurement are mostly loan financed by rule. The only good indicator would be the release of Ministry of Finance's "Green Book". This contain all the approved and financed deal. The Airforce officials or medias are mostly talks about Yellow or Blue book. Those are the plans where one can find the wishlists of the many.
Hawk and Flankers however are about to undergo some life extension so they'll have more life ahead of them.
I'm assuming they'll be the Saudi F-15C/Ds; personally I think that's the smartest choice they could make. Multi role capabilities are inherent to the airframe, and unlike the USAF the Saudi Eagles shouldn't be beat to hell either.![]()
Air Force plans to buy used F-15s, Dassault Rafale - ANTARA News
The Indonesian Air Force (TNI AU) is planning to buy sophisticated 4.5 generation fighter jets, including France-made Dassault Rafale and used US-made F-15s, ...en.antaranews.com
now they are saying they want used F-15s![]()
I've heard that its probably just a misinterpretation of the announcement. So Indonesia probably still the first foreign F-15EX customer.![]()
Air Force plans to buy used F-15s, Dassault Rafale - ANTARA News
The Indonesian Air Force (TNI AU) is planning to buy sophisticated 4.5 generation fighter jets, including France-made Dassault Rafale and used US-made F-15s, ...en.antaranews.com
now they are saying they want used F-15s![]()
Probably not...So Indonesia probably still the first foreign F-15EX customer.
In case not, who do you think it would be?Probably not...So Indonesia probably still the first foreign F-15EX customer.