B-70 as a high speed U2/TSR-2 alternative

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So, the XB-70 is built and put into service, only to find it needs to extend ability to remain relevent. Could it do that with high speed and long range recce? I know the elephant in the room is the SR-71 but is there room anywhere for this role?
 
XB-70 top speed was mach 3.1
SR-71 mach 3.2
A-12 mach 3.35
Does the slightly lower speed makes the Valkyrie more vulnerable ?
How high could it flew ? 70 000 ft ? Blackbird could do 80000 or even 90000 ft.
Main problem for the B-70 was its colossal RCS and IR signatures even compared to SR-71.
 
With a conformal sensor suite it could (Possibly) be used for tactical recce while remaining outside the actual hot zone. Fast enough to get there quick and big enough to carry the sensors.
 
Note that SR-71s never did overflights, U-2 style: only border penetration runs (to turn Soviet SAMs crazy). I wonder if a RB-70 could do that.
 
Noticeable enough to royally tick people off for sure.
 
So a lot more money for a rather inferior recon plane. Why would that make sense?
I think the B-70 is a beautiful technical marvel (one of the most stunning aircraft ever to fly).
But it was cancelled because ICBMs did its job a lot better. And while if it hadn’t been over taken by events and technology there may have been a recon sub-variant such a sub-variant was never going to save it from cancellation. And the US ended up with cheaper and better alternatives for both deterrence and for recon any way.
 
Next the enormously radar cross-section, were the bright IR signature of 6 × General Electric YJ93-GE-3 engines
because they burned expensive refined kerosine, they even consider the use of ZIP Fuel (highly toxic pentaborane fuel)
Every Soviet AAM with IR sensor would find that hotspot...

Ironic, the SR-71 used two modified Pratt & Whitney J58 with Ramjet, that burn standard JP-7 fuel (kickstated by TEB aka triethylborane )
and had much lower IR signature compaire to a BR-70
 
In gunboat diplomacy, nothing could quite have the same knack of making ADF commanders wet their bloomers so quickly as a large IR signature. Besides I was intending the aircraft to remain outside contested airspace and provide quick and short term situational awareness before being withdrawn. Hopefully having spoofed those air defences.
 
the aircraft to remain outside contested airspace and provide quick and short term situational awareness before being withdrawn. Hopefully having spoofed those air defences.
And how it do it reconnaissance ? it must fly over enemy target to make fotos.
and what about long range interceptors who can reach the B-70?
 
I did say with a conformal sensor package, the sort carried by various recce aircraft of the time which do not require overflight of contested territory. As for interceptors, CAP at various points along the route if needed. I never mentioned photo recce.
 
Things like SLAR and also LOROP cameras - they could peer 100 miles into ennemy territory from outside the border.
That's how SR-71s did their job.
 
...to extend ability to remain relevent. Could it do that with high speed and long range recce?
This was partially addressed in 1962 to justify budget:

"With the prospects of the B-70 bomber ever replacing the B-52 as the SAC mainstay looking bleak, the Air Force worked with North American Aviation to develop additional capabilities for the Valkyrie. It was hoped that added capabilities and flexibility would finally interest the Administration."

"In 1962, the Air Force proposed a new project: a reconnaissance-strike version of the aircraft, designated the RS-70 . The RS-70 was designed to overfly and scan the enemy territory during or after a nuclear exchange, identifying and attacking any targets not destroyed by the first salvo of missiles. By processing reconnaissance data within an airborne strike vehicle, targets could be immediately attacked, instead of wasting precious time waiting for the next round of missiles. Advanced computerized radar would direct airborne missiles to their targets. The Air Force and North American were proposing a program of 60 operational aircraft by 1969, at an estimated cost of $50 million each, with another 150 airplanes delivered in 1970. For this RS-70, the Air Force's FY 1963 request totaled $573.8 million, compared to only $171 million allocated according to the President's budget.
The Administration did not support the new and improved B-70. First of all, Robert McNamara did not believe the technology required for such a mission even existed, especially the radar system. He argued that as the RS-70 flew at 70,000 feet and 2,000 miles per hour, the proposed radar would be seeing new areas at a rate of 100,000 square miles per hour or 750 million square feet per second. The technology required to gather,process, and display this data would not be available by the time the RS-70 required it. Second, even if it was feasible, what overall contribution would the RS-70 make? In its intended mission,the RS-70 would be hunting for the last few surviving and unlaunched Soviet missile sites. General Maxwell Taylor, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, questioned the overall importance of overflying Soviet targets looking for residual weapons, after each country had already exchanged several thousand megatons of nuclear firepower. "Is it worth several billion dollars of national resources?" he asked."
( excerpt from https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a229545.pdf )

The RS-70 leading (numerically) on to the RS-71, apocryphally re-designated as the aforementioned SR-71.
 
A lot of these military hearings can now be downloaded as pdf, for free, via google books.
Prepare to bust your HD storage space with (average) 1100 pages long gargantuan files.
 
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