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American Secret Projects 2: Airlifters Hardcover – April 30, 2019

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I haven't found any typos or layout errors yet (unlike previous titles from the same publishers who were evidently editor-less)...

Myriad C-74 projects to savour on the road to the C-124 :)

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I got my copy of Volume 2....FINALLY!

The first two chapters of this book talk about the history of US airlift and the challenges with airlifter design in loading, operational setting, powerplants, et cetera.
 

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Have my copy since this morning thanks to the excellent services
of Standaard Boekhandel Belgium (31.95Eu)

Wonderfull book!

P.S : Boeing C-127 project is not mentioned nor illustrated it seems...

Correction : Boeing C-127 is not mentioned in he indexpages but a bit text appears
on page 158. " .... It has been suggested that the model 493 was given the designation C-127
but this is not borne out by AirForce sources..."
On pages 158 and 162 you'll find that C-127 was given to the C-124B turboprop version of the C-124 Globemaster II.
 

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Mine arrived last Thursday and I'm finding it most enjoyable reading. The first two chapters make for an interesting comparison with another book, Air Mobility: A Brief History of the American Experience by Robert C. Own which I picked up at my local Half-Price Books. The latter book does frame matters quite nicely. The book is available on Amazon at reasonable prices and I can recommend it highly.
 
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ASP2: Airlifters is now listed as "In Stock" on Amazon US and the expected discount is now available.
 

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Congrats to George Cox & Craig Kaston on their book, read my copy cover to cover and highly recommend it.
I’m not really a transport aircraft guy but this book deals with a fascinating period where the ultimate in piston engines and straight winged technology slowly gives way to jets of various kinds and swept wings, and the modern concept of airlifters evolves.
Even just the content on what lead to the B707 & DC-8 made buying the book worth while.
 
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This is an amazing addition to this series. There were quite a few more design studies than I was expecting and it is far more interesting then I thought it would be. I highly recommend this book and now I'm even more excited for volume 3.
 

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I finally got mine and it is phenomenal, to not only read about the designs that led up to types like the C-124, C-133 and C-141, but also to the Boeing 707 and DC-8. I've never seen most of the variations in the Boeing 367 design that eventually resulted in the 367-80 prototype. And I've never seen the competitors to the C-130; one wonders that if Boeing or Douglas had won that contract, would their airplane still be in production today?

I did find a couple of errors in the large drawing on page 149; it indicates that both the 367-70-2 and -3 had J57 turbojets (even though the -3 is shown with propellers), whereas the text on page 152 says that the -2 had Olympus (J67) engines and the -3 had T34 turboprops. Not a big deal, really.
 

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Those books sell out too quickly :( Thanks anyway.
 

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Derek Wood's Project Cancelled also has some airliner projects.
Now there's a book that REALLY needs a reprint, the current relevance/correctness of its content notwithstanding. Copies I've found online have had hideous prices.

Between current and old Secret Projects issues, I have a sinking feeling I'm going to end up with a duplicate or two along the road. Never mind; I will donate those to the local library, whose aviation section is IMHO of hideously low quality.

American Secret Projects - Hypersonics, Ramjets and Missiles would be like manna from heaven for me, though I suspect it would probably end up extending over two fairly thick volumes! ;)
 

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Has American Secret Projects 3 been delayed? It was due to publish on 30th September 2019 but Book Depository is showing a 15th December 2019 publication date now!

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Has American Secret Projects 3 been delayed? It was due to publish on 30th September 2019 but Book Depository is showing a 15th December 2019 publication date now!

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Amazon (U.S.) has been showing 15 December ever since volume 2 was split off from what had originally been announced as a single volume. Crecy is showing publication on 30 November.
 

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A comment about ASP2 is the lack of the Convair R3Y Tradewind. Granted, it was originally developed as a patrol seaplane, but there was some technical work needed to convert it to a transport, and I would think that would merit at least some mention.
 

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A comment about ASP2 is the lack of the Convair R3Y Tradewind. Granted, it was originally developed as a patrol seaplane, but there was some technical work needed to convert it to a transport, and I would think that would merit at least some mention.
Given that this book's premise is aircraft developed from the start as transport aircraft, I can understand the desire not to put the Tradewind in.

I found it very interesting. Just because the aircraft in question weren't waiting on weapon systems or high-performance engines that failed to materialize or mature doesn't mean there wasn't room for development projects to go to hell in a handbasket.
 

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Has American Secret Projects 3 been delayed? It was due to publish on 30th September 2019 but Book Depository is showing a 15th December 2019 publication date now!
The authors came by our stand at Telford, and said that ASP 3 is almost ready. They didn't mention a specific date, but Dec 15 sounds reasonable.
 

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Has American Secret Projects 3 been delayed? It was due to publish on 30th September 2019 but Book Depository is showing a 15th December 2019 publication date now!
The authors came by our stand at Telford, and said that ASP 3 is almost ready. They didn't mention a specific date, but Dec 15 sounds reasonable.
I asked at your stand on Saturday and was told to expect publication next March :(

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To be clear, Hobbes is not referring to Crecy's stand as his - the authors spoke to him at the Whatif/Project Cancelled SIG table. He was simply relaying what the authors said.
 

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I noticed that Robert Hopkins said on Crecy's twitter account that hopefully Crecy would be announcing some new titles soon, including Spyflights Vol 2.
 

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To be clear, Hobbes is not referring to Crecy's stand as his - the authors spoke to him at the Whatif/Project Cancelled SIG table. He was simply relaying what the authors said.
I asked at the Crécy stand......

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So who were you talking to with your comment:

I asked at your stand on Saturday and was told to expect publication next March
There's noone from Crécy in this topic....
 

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I noticed that Robert Hopkins said on Crecy's twitter account that hopefully Crecy would be announcing some new titles soon, including Spyflights Vol 2.
Glad to hear that there's going to be a volume 2. Since so much time had passed I just assumed the author had moved on to other projects.
 

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It's been pushed back to February 15, 2020. I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but why do companies continually push back the publication date ?
 

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1. Writing is not factory work. Especially when you do it in addition to a day job, schedule slips happen.

This impacts 2. the production process: you have to book a time slot at a printer, if you miss it a new slot must be found. The printer has deadlines of his own, so you may have to wait several weeks for the next available slot.

In this case there's another layer: Amazon. They aren't very good at estimating availability dates, so they're off by months in some cases, and have been known to show a book as 'not available yet' long after it's come out.

The source says:
This product will be in stock on Tuesday 31. March, 2020.
You can order direct from them, by the way, and cut out all of Amazon's vagaries.
 

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In this case there's another layer: Amazon. They aren't very good at estimating availability dates, so they're off by months in some cases, and have been known to show a book as 'not available yet' long after it's come out
What's even more annoying is when they say a book is "Out of print, no longer available" months before the book has even been published!
 
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