Advanced Air Superiority Aircraft System’ - VFX(AS) Study

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Once again I've been flicking through one of my favourite books “The Pentagon Paradox. The development of the F-18 Hornet” by James Perry Stevenson (ISBN 1557507759), Shrewsbury, 1993.

In this book it talks about the following program:
'Commander Ernie Waller USN’s theoretical Proposed Technical Approach (PTA) ‘Advanced Air Superiority Aircraft System’ - VFX(AS)………………………On Dec 10, 1969, General Dynamics submitted a proposal to study Waller’s ‘other fighter mission’………………..General Dynamics was awarded a $70.000 contract to study the alternative mission fighter……………….Commander Waller circulated his proposal just before he retired from the [U.S.] Navy in June 1970, but the lightweight VFX(AS) fighter never achived support within the [U.S.] Navy. In fact, George Spangenberg said the PTA should be burned. The General Dynamics (Convair) report said that for the 500-mile escort mission, Convair could develop a 26,000-pound aircraft with a flyaway cost of $2.1 million. The report emphasised that the avionics and armament subsystem weight (radar and missiles) would be the inhibiting factor in the design size and cost………… Within a little over a year General Dynamics (Fort Worth division) would submit a design that would weigh almost 10,000 pounds less…………..The airplane that Convair submitted to the Navy was remarkably similar to the YF-16 design that the Fort Worth division would submit a year latter, except the Convair’s design was a taildragger'

Does anyone have any pictures/drawings of this VFX(AS) design study. Or that of the General Dynamics (Convair) 26,000-pound design???

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G'day Gents!

Once again I've been flicking through one of my favourite books “The Pentagon Paradox. The development of the F-18 Hornet” by James Perry Stevenson (ISBN 1557507759), Shrewsbury, 1993.

In this book it talks about the following program:
'Commander Ernie Waller USN’s theoretical Proposed Technical Approach (PTA) ‘Advanced Air Superiority Aircraft System’ - VFX(AS)………………………On Dec 10, 1969, General Dynamics submitted a proposal to study Waller’s ‘other fighter mission’………………..General Dynamics was awarded a $70.000 contract to study the alternative mission fighter……………….Commander Waller circulated his proposal just before he retired from the [U.S.] Navy in June 1970, but the lightweight VFX(AS) fighter never achived support within the [U.S.] Navy. In fact, George Spangenberg said the PTA should be burned. The General Dynamics (Convair) report said that for the 500-mile escort mission, Convair could develop a 26,000-pound aircraft with a flyaway cost of $2.1 million. The report emphasised that the avionics and armament subsystem weight (radar and missiles) would be the inhibiting factor in the design size and cost………… Within a little over a year General Dynamics (Fort Worth division) would submit a design that would weigh almost 10,000 pounds less…………..The airplane that Convair submitted to the Navy was remarkably similar to the YF-16 design that the Fort Worth division would submit a year latter, except the Convair’s design was a taildragger'

Does anyone have any pictures/drawings of this VFX(AS) design study. Or that of the General Dynamics (Convair) 26,000-pound design???

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Given it was General Dynamics Convair I would guess it was a canard delta design ancestral to the Model 23 which they designed towards VFAX and related to the Model 200 series.
 

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G'day Gents!

Once again I've been flicking through one of my favourite books “The Pentagon Paradox. The development of the F-18 Hornet” by James Perry Stevenson (ISBN 1557507759), Shrewsbury, 1993.

In this book it talks about the following program:
'Commander Ernie Waller USN’s theoretical Proposed Technical Approach (PTA) ‘Advanced Air Superiority Aircraft System’ - VFX(AS)………………………On Dec 10, 1969, General Dynamics submitted a proposal to study Waller’s ‘other fighter mission’………………..General Dynamics was awarded a $70.000 contract to study the alternative mission fighter……………….Commander Waller circulated his proposal just before he retired from the [U.S.] Navy in June 1970, but the lightweight VFX(AS) fighter never achived support within the [U.S.] Navy. In fact, George Spangenberg said the PTA should be burned. The General Dynamics (Convair) report said that for the 500-mile escort mission, Convair could develop a 26,000-pound aircraft with a flyaway cost of $2.1 million. The report emphasised that the avionics and armament subsystem weight (radar and missiles) would be the inhibiting factor in the design size and cost………… Within a little over a year General Dynamics (Fort Worth division) would submit a design that would weigh almost 10,000 pounds less…………..The airplane that Convair submitted to the Navy was remarkably similar to the YF-16 design that the Fort Worth division would submit a year latter, except the Convair’s design was a taildragger'

Does anyone have any pictures/drawings of this VFX(AS) design study. Or that of the General Dynamics (Convair) 26,000-pound design???

Regards
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Given it was General Dynamics Convair I would guess it was a canard delta design ancestral to the Model 23 which they designed towards VFAX and related to the Model 200 series.
Thanks Paul, I had an incling it might have something to do with a spin-off of the Model 200, but I thought if anyone knew it would be on this forum.

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it was a canard delta design ancestral to the Model 23 which they designed towards VFAX and related to the Model 200 series.

And it vaguely looks like the ultimate F-106s proposals of the late 60's, also with canards...
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