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Mustang Variants
« on: September 01, 2007, 12:16:35 pm »
Hi folks,

A new thread for and unknown, secret or rare North American P-51 Mustang variants.  I'll start off by including what may have been the ultimate Mustang:



This was supposedly a proposal that North American had come up with in case the war had continued.  As you can see, it had forward swept wings as well as an advanced (specifically how I don't know), a Westinghouse jet engine in the rear fuselage and a tricycle undercarriage.

Regards,

Greg

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 02:34:38 pm »
Slightly clearer version
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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 02:57:33 pm »
Here some additional info ...

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 05:22:08 pm »
Probably a dumb question: Where would the .50's go?

This wing doesn't seem to have the required space to store the then standard complement of 6*.50 Browning guns.

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2009, 07:53:48 pm »

  Interesting that the prop was to rotate 'the wrong direction'!

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2009, 12:22:32 am »
your sure it a jet engine ?
look more a motorjet (aka thermojet)

there was also a P-51 Ramjet version

fantasic art with P-51 ramjet
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7238.0.html

more on Jet Mustangs
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3637.0.html

F-82 Twin Mustang
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6748.0.html
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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 02:13:30 am »
fantasic art with P-51 ramjet
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7238.0.html
Thanks, glad you like it! :)

Attached a crop of this image but edited to look like an old magazine photo.


Here's an older piece with the same aircraft but with MTO markings. Needless to say it's all fictional.



The aircraft in the background is a Junkers EF 100 transport, dressed up as "Immelmann V"... ;)


« Last Edit: August 04, 2010, 02:16:07 am by Skyraider3D »

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 04:54:24 am »
Great work! That postcard is especially well done, as most artificially aged stuff is not convincing at all.

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 07:45:00 am »
Hi folks,

A new thread for and unknown, secret or rare North American P-51 Mustang variants.  I'll start off by including what may have been the ultimate Mustang:



This was supposedly a proposal that North American had come up with in case the war had continued.  As you can see, it had forward swept wings as well as an advanced (specifically how I don't know), a Westinghouse jet engine in the rear fuselage and a tricycle undercarriage.

Regards,

Greg
Can you send me a high res image of this drawing. Thanks!

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 11:44:48 am »
North American "mid-engined Mustang"

Original source: not available
Debunking: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5933.msg121649.html#msg121649
In Green's "Fighters" vol 4 p 141 ,there is a photo of the mock-up of a Mustang fitted with a RR Merlin aft of the cockpit : " y " is not a what-if , but a serious project.
I have a copy of William Green's "Fighters" vol 4, will scan image. Real project.
<edit> Found an image here.

<edit>Added William Green's image.

« Last Edit: March 26, 2012, 11:46:28 am by Arjen »

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 11:49:34 am »
It's not a Merlin, but a Griffon engine. This was a Rolls Royce testbed.

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 12:00:51 pm »
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It's not a Merlin, but a Griffon engine.
Looking at the size of the engine that might well be true. Do you have more information?
I found this here:
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The Merlin conversion was very promising, but the director of the Hucknall establishment, Ray Dorey, had an even more ambitious idea.  He wanted to mate the Mustang to a Griffon engine, mounted behind the pilot as was the Allison in the Bell P-39 Airacobra.  Rolls-Royce engineers believed this aircraft would be capable of a top speed of 800 KPH (500 MPH), but it never progressed beyond the mock-up stage.
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This was a Rolls Royce testbed.
William Green's image caption: "The mock-up of Rolls-Royce's proposal to mount a Merlin engine in the Mustang aft of the cockpit."


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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 12:44:15 pm »
Gentlemen,

Try the searchfunction for Rolls Royce FTB Mustang

and /or FTB Mustang...

Good luck.

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 01:00:52 pm »
Additional info...

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Re: Mustang Variants
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 11:53:22 pm »