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Aerospace / Re: Bell V-280 Valor
« Last post by yasotay on Today at 12:25:16 pm »
Have not seen anything yet.
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F-15s cost more to buy and maintain than the F-35 while offering no advantage except for max speed & range.  In A2A the F-35 is better so that is no real advantage for the F-15 and it's gun is even weaker than the F-35's.

Modern CAS is about information and PGMs.

Now, can we please have a F-35 discussion thread?

Don't "poo poo" range. Remember, we don't have bases everywhere and not everyone is willing to base US fighters. I would dare say that range can out-trump LO as long as we're not fighting a peer state, and range definitely out-trumps LO when the battlefield is dominated by decoys and SEAD aircraft.

Might I suggest that if that sort of range is going to enter the equation the need for CAS will have long since passed by the time you get there.

Not true. Loiter time. The 15 can loiter all day with fast packs and drop tanks and add in tanker support and it will fly till the pilot fatigues out. If you're saying CAS depends on being within a few minutes of a battle, they you're stuck with Apache gunships as they can be prepositioned near hot spots. Also Warthogs were providing CAS during Desert Shield Storm hundreds and hundreds of miles from their bases. An advanced Eagle could do it better and faster. If you study ground combat and history, most battles last a LONG time. It's not over in 5 minutes like a movie. Plenty of time for a Eagle to travel a hundred or 2 hundred miles and make a difference. For example from recent history, Benghazi was 13 hours. and if you know there will be a battle because you are the initiator, then 15s can be pre-positioned loitering.

So an F-15 would be good for CAS but an F-35 would not because. . . .

Also, re. range, you might want to take a look through this thread here with real F-15 pilots discussing range as it relates to the F-15 & F35:

http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=53048&start=120
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F-15s cost more to buy and maintain than the F-35 while offering no advantage except for max speed & range.  In A2A the F-35 is better so that is no real advantage for the F-15 and it's gun is even weaker than the F-35's.

Modern CAS is about information and PGMs.

Now, can we please have a F-35 discussion thread?

Don't "poo poo" range. Remember, we don't have bases everywhere and not everyone is willing to base US fighters. I would dare say that range can out-trump LO as long as we're not fighting a peer state, and range definitely out-trumps LO when the battlefield is dominated by decoys and SEAD aircraft.

Might I suggest that if that sort of range is going to enter the equation the need for CAS will have long since passed by the time you get there.

Not true. Loiter time. The 15 can loiter all day with fast packs and drop tanks and add in tanker support and it will fly till the pilot fatigues out. If you're saying CAS depends on being within a few minutes of a battle, they you're stuck with Apache gunships as they can be prepositioned near hot spots. Also Warthogs were providing CAS during Desert Shield Storm hundreds and hundreds of miles from their bases. An advanced Eagle could do it better and faster. If you study ground combat and history, most battles last a LONG time. It's not over in 5 minutes like a movie. Plenty of time for a Eagle to travel a hundred or 2 hundred miles and make a difference. For example from recent history, Benghazi was 13 hours. and if you know there will be a battle because you are the initiator, then 15s can be pre-positioned loitering.
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F-15s cost more to buy and maintain than the F-35 while offering no advantage except for max speed & range.  In A2A the F-35 is better so that is no real advantage for the F-15 and it's gun is even weaker than the F-35's.

Modern CAS is about information and PGMs.

Now, can we please have a F-35 discussion thread?
STOVL F-35s have an external gun only.
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The Bar / Re: Strange Russian old Aircraft Models
« Last post by Grey Havoc on Today at 09:04:42 am »
Hi,


here is anther four Models of aircraft for a weird concepts,I spoke before about two of them;


http://modelist-konstruktor.com/v_mire_modelej/neobychnye-komponovki
http://p-ln.ru/rus/Sa-1/index.html

The first image looks almost like an attempt to create a workable aircraft using a Busemann ringwing.
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F-15s cost more to buy and maintain than the F-35 while offering no advantage except for max speed & range.  In A2A the F-35 is better so that is no real advantage for the F-15 and it's gun is even weaker than the F-35's.

Modern CAS is about information and PGMs.

Now, can we please have a F-35 discussion thread?

Don't "poo poo" range. Remember, we don't have bases everywhere and not everyone is willing to base US fighters. I would dare say that range can out-trump LO as long as we're not fighting a peer state, and range definitely out-trumps LO when the battlefield is dominated by decoys and SEAD aircraft.

Might I suggest that if that sort of range is going to enter the equation the need for CAS will have long since passed by the time you get there. 
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Aerospace / Re: Bell V-280 Valor
« Last post by TomcatViP on Today at 08:07:31 am »
Is there anything in the press yet?
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F-15s cost more to buy and maintain than the F-35 while offering no advantage except for max speed & range.  In A2A the F-35 is better so that is no real advantage for the F-15 and it's gun is even weaker than the F-35's.

Modern CAS is about information and PGMs.

Now, can we please have a F-35 discussion thread?

Don't "poo poo" range. Remember, we don't have bases everywhere and not everyone is willing to base US fighters. I would dare say that range can out-trump LO as long as we're not fighting a peer state, and range definitely out-trumps LO when the battlefield is dominated by decoys and SEAD aircraft.
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A pair of B-1s with WCMD and Skeets would fix that.
Get the external hardpoints back and just one would do.

Don't forget the Battle Herk: you can CAS in low intensity fight or  project your CAS capability with a minimal (and stealthy) logistical burden.

Moreover it makes even more senses once you fight peer adversaries where your logistics suddenly comes at the fore front of your capabilities. Turn the Hercules back in its cargo mode and bingo, you managed to ready your forces for two different type of crisis with a sane and efficient budgeting policy. What the USMC did with this concept is amazing. Hope we will see more of the HarvestHawk V2.0 sporting Eu markings.

(Sorry for the OT b/w...)
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F-15s cost more to buy and maintain than the F-35 while offering no advantage except for max speed & range.  In A2A the F-35 is better so that is no real advantage for the F-15 and it's gun is even weaker than the F-35's.

Modern CAS is about information and PGMs.

Now, can we please have a F-35 discussion thread?
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