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Designation Systems / Re: Goodyear aircraft (GA-) and blimps (GZ-)
« Last post by hesham on Yesterday at 10:46:11 am »
Give me sometimes.
Designation Systems / Re: Morane Saulnier designations
« Last post by Skyblazer on Yesterday at 09:46:06 am »
Here's my updated Morane-Saulnier list in PDF form. Feel free to peruse it and please notify when you see any mistakes or omissions.
Designation Systems / Re: Goodyear aircraft (GA-) and blimps (GZ-)
« Last post by Skyblazer on Yesterday at 06:26:32 am »

in 1949,Goodyear designed a fighter-bomber shipboard jet aircraft Project,had a mid-swept wing and V-tail,powered
by two GE TG190B (J47) engines,fed through unusual 'split-chin' air intakes.

Designation Systems / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW- designations and P- projects
« Last post by hesham on Yesterday at 04:57:45 am »
We want to complete P series.
Designation Systems / Re: Goodyear aircraft (GA-) and blimps (GZ-)
« Last post by hesham on Yesterday at 04:22:16 am »

in 1949,Goodyear designed a fighter-bomber shipboard jet aircraft Project,had a mid-swept wing and V-tail,powered
by two GE TG190B (J47) engines,fed through unusual 'split-chin' air intakes.
Propulsion / Re: GE XA100 and P&W XA101 AETP engines
« Last post by fredymac on Yesterday at 03:21:53 am »
Roger E. Herst, Ghost Sub, 2013

United States

USS Edmond Roald Admundsen (SSN-??? or SSGN-???) (ex-USS Scorpion (SSN-589))
Skipjack Class Submarine
Details as per the real ships
Commissioned: 1959
Armament has been modified to replace the normal torpedo load with 18 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles, launched via the torpedo tubes. An automatic loading system for the Tomahawks has been fitted.
Note: Stated to be the sixth nuclear submarine built after the USS Nautilus (SSN-571). Crew uses Blue/Gold rotation system like Ballistic Missile submarines. Specifically stated it was chosen because it was from a class that retained six bow tubes. Stated to be the former USS Scorpion (SSN-589) which went missing off the Azores in 1968. In novel the ship was simply renamed and used for covert operations, this being the latest of them.

USS Yellowtail (SSN-???)
Sturgeon Class Submarine
Details as per the real ships.
Note: Author explicitly identifies the submarine as a member of the Sturgeon Class.

USS Mako (SSN-???)
Nuclear Submarine, class not specified (Skate/Sturgeon/Permit Class?)
No other details provided

USS Millard Fiillmore (SSN-??? or SSBN-???)
Nuclear Submarine of unspecified class
No other details provided
Note: Another submarine of unspecified class with this name appears in the science fiction novel 'Death of a Cosmonaut (1969)

Arktika Class Icebreaker
Real ship, details as in service.
Note: This ship was replaced by an icebreaker of the same name in 2016
In the novel this ship is carrying a helicopter configured for ASW operations, most likely a KA-27 'Helix'.

Destroyer, class not specified
No other details provided

Destroyer, class not specified
No other details provided

Two 'Patrol Icebreakers'

Two Poti Class Corvettes

Golf Class Submarine

Plot summary: An American submarine has been sent into waters close off the Russian Arctic coast on a top-secret deployment. As a series of accidents and strange events occur the crew starts wondering if they will complete the patrol alive.

Note: The author does not provide any specific dating information beyond the fact that it takes place after the introduction of the Tomahawk missile in 1983. From the overall 'feel' of things the story is taking place some time mid-80s, certainly no later than the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989. I wanted to like this one, but there were all sorts of niggling little problems, starting with the claim that US submarines use 25 inch TT, that ultimately prevented me from doing so.
This not only is nearly incomprehensible (the writting), it is also a nationalistic rant that completely ignores reality. Oh well.  >:(  Blame Dassault, easy target)

Mind you, the European also added weight to the EFA project to a) exclude France with an aircraft too heavy for its carriers and b) exclude SNECMA M88 in favor of the EJ-200. So yes, our beloved british "friends" led by that Thatcher [insert lots of rude words here] quite cheated the game, too.

Where to start ? yes, by 1948 the public companies were unable to make a decent jet (bar the Vautour). SNCASO Espadon was to be the answer, but weighed too much and climbed like a led sled. At least the Ouragan worked and did not killed its pilots like too many other prototypes did. Dassault went the cautious way, and it paid. Same for the Mirages.

Dassault learned the hard way to ignore the Armée de l'air blue sky  Operational Requirements (O.R) and build palliatives on private funds, then the palliatives become permanent after the AdA recognized that, while the O.R could be done, except at horrendous cost.
Dassault build a shitload of prototypes in the 60's only to threw most of them after the AdA changed its mind, and despite stellar flight tests program. Mirage G, Mirage G8, ACF are good examples, the later was scrapped while 80% complete, in 1975.

British aircraft makers faced the same conundrum - the RAF was no better than AdA, in the sense its Operational Requirements were complete madness (see TSR-2 - splendid aircraft, but budget killed it, as Sydney Camm perfectly understood).

say what you want of Dassault, but facing the same conundrum as its british counterpart (blue sky O.R) they did a far better job surviving to the present day.
User Artwork / Re: Advancedboy's Designs Topic
« Last post by ADVANCEDBOY on July 15, 2018, 10:49:25 pm »
Cessna Archipelago. A small, 12 ton carrier plane for delivering cargo to  Pacific islands and elsewhere.
I'm with kaiserd #4.

The influence of Marcel, then Serge was out of all proportion to the firm's attributes, and starts with Bloch's success in not being absorbed into a State-entity in 1937. The line Ouragon-Mystere-Mirage III was estimable, but not beyond the scope of the Nationalised sites: success bred hubris. That featured in the recalled Saviour President, 1/59. So, Mirage IVA/Force de Frappe. UK and US tried to dissuade such proliferation/duplication - expensive dilution of France's economy, undermining the D'Artagnan, all-for-one essence of NATO. CDG suggested UK itself might examine exactly that: UK failed to grasp his logic.

UK, 1/65 reduced its Requirement for a deep nuclear penetrator to 40 strike/10 trainers: that killed TSR.2, whose cost would be untenable on so small an order, so UK joined McNamara's  planned 3,000 TFX. BAC pitched Mirage IVA/Spey, but Defence Secretary Healey accepted F-111K and attended to a much larger Requirement to replace F-4K on CVA-01 and F-4M in RAFG. He could have joined any one of the plethora of French/FRG/Italian/US V/STOL schemes, whose raison d'etre was runways being Scudded. But he chose to presume intact pistes and to invent AFVG. Marcel soon caused CDG to uninvent his subordination to BAC, who were thus left to doodle doomed UKVG...until Marcel's hubris came to the rescue.

France was admitted to the F-104 Group's discussion of an NKF and cheerfully announced the problem was resolved: the others could share the perspex, wheels and brakes on anyMirage. Excommunicated. Healey in, like rat up drainpipe. Tornado. Serge then did the same. Typhoon. US tried hard to kill both.

If... French politicians had reined in Marcel and Serge, reminding them who pays their bills, then...the collaborations that worked on Concorde, ELDO....and on to borderless Airbus/MBDA, could have been earlier, extravagent duplication Tornado/Mirage 2000, Rafale/Typhoon avoided. Thank the Lord that we have all learned for the next generation.
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