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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by fredymac on Today at 01:21:23 pm »
Labels.  How dare you.
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by Orionblamblam on Today at 01:08:56 pm »

Quote from: martinbayer
...dreaming of dominating the world?

Theeeere it is. 

Okay. Got it. I was right then. This isn't an honest conversation. Nevermind, I'll bow out and let you project all the ill-intentions needed to make you feel better.


Keep in mind: if the US Space Force comes to pass, gets a YUUUUGE budget and ends up building 10,000-ton Orion spacecraft which are used to place radar/lidar stations all throughout the solar system along with nuclear pulse systems designed to deflect asteroids and comets that are on potentially Earth-impacting trajectories... it would be inappropriate to refer to that as "planetary defense." It would be "planetary aggression" against under-represented Space Rocks of Color who are trans-orbital and identify as terrestrial mountains. Standing in the way of such asteroids going where they want means you are a rocksist, and probably an Earth supremacist.
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Military / Re: U.S. Army shedding it's watercraft
« Last post by Foo Fighter on Today at 12:30:08 pm »
Perhaps they expect the roles to be uniquely Navy/marines in execution.
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by fredymac on Today at 12:19:43 pm »



Actually, the US routinely asks lots of other nations to support all kinds of worldwide military endeavors with *their* troops (e.g. "coalition of the willing"). And although I am admittedly not really a huge fan of the current US administration, their stance on such efforts is actually one of the precious few policy topics that I concur with, so I am honestly absolutely mystified why you call my description thereof "antagonistic".


You are "absolutely mystified" about why anyone might think you are ill disposed not only towards the current administration in particular but probably the US in general.  I have my doubts.

Specific case in point.  The US still has thousands of troops in Germany.  According to you they constitute a force for aggression.  Should they not be relocated to a country that would welcome them.   Poland for example?  Yes they are still engaged in that "beyond the borders" thing but at least Germany is no longer contributing to evil.
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by martinbayer on Today at 12:07:15 pm »
Quote from: Del
I really have a hard time with this conversation being something other than an attempt to twist words around and change their meanings in order to assign negative motives to others or smear with innuendo. Is there another interpretation here?

Quote from: martinbayer
...dreaming of dominating the world?

Theeeere it is. 

Okay. Got it. I was right then. This isn't an honest conversation. Nevermind, I'll bow out and let you project all the ill-intentions needed to make you feel better.

Oh, believe me - at least on my end this *is* an honest conversation, but of course I don't know about you...
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by martinbayer on Today at 12:05:23 pm »

You are (either inadvertently or willfully) misrepresenting my position. I'd like to point out though that the current US administration seems to take a fairly dim view on global engagement as well.


Where is your post blaming any other country?  And then you follow up with yet another stab.

How many other countries have hundreds of military installations around the globe? And why do you consider merely stating the position of the current administration a "stab"?


How many other countries are asked to provide troops all over the world?  Your antagonistic descriptions of the current administration is what I challenge.

Actually, the US routinely asks lots of other nations to support all kinds of worldwide military endeavors with *their* troops (e.g. "coalition of the willing"). And although I am admittedly not really a huge fan of the current US administration, their stance on such efforts is actually one of the precious few policy topics that I concur with, so I am honestly absolutely mystified why you call my description thereof "antagonistic".
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by _Del_ on Today at 11:59:10 am »
Quote from: Del
I really have a hard time with this conversation being something other than an attempt to twist words around and change their meanings in order to assign negative motives to others or smear with innuendo. Is there another interpretation here?

Quote from: martinbayer
...dreaming of dominating the world?

Theeeere it is. 

Okay. Got it. I was right then. This isn't an honest conversation. Nevermind, I'll bow out and let you project all the ill-intentions needed to make you feel better.
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by fredymac on Today at 11:54:54 am »

You are (either inadvertently or willfully) misrepresenting my position. I'd like to point out though that the current US administration seems to take a fairly dim view on global engagement as well.


Where is your post blaming any other country?  And then you follow up with yet another stab.

How many other countries have hundreds of military installations around the globe? And why do you consider merely stating the position of the current administration a "stab"?


How many other countries are asked to provide troops all over the world?  Your antagonistic descriptions of the current administration is what I challenge.
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by martinbayer on Today at 11:46:07 am »


How many other countries have hundreds of military installations around the globe?

I think what you mean is, "how many would if they could?"  The answer, of course, is pretty much all of them.

Really? Finland is secretly dreaming of dominating the world? Objection, conjecture...
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The Bar / Re: The US Space Force
« Last post by sferrin on Today at 11:18:32 am »


How many other countries have hundreds of military installations around the globe?

I think what you mean is, "how many would if they could?"  The answer, of course, is pretty much all of them.
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