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F-104 Starfighter Projects
« on: October 26, 2006, 05:08:44 pm »
First up: L-227-14, one of the designs leading to the F-104. Clearly not the direction Lockheed decided to take. (Note: on the original, the dimensions are illegible).

Second: CL-351-10 AKA F-104X, an F-104 with big inlets, a J-79 and the ability to get to Mach 3.2 at 69,000 feet.
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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 05:14:54 pm »
Next: the L-252 series from 1953. Starts off with the -1, which was an F-104 growed bigger to serve as a long-range interceptor, with jettisonable airturborockets on the wingtips. Then the -2 comes along, ditches the airturborockets in favor of a second turbojet and swaps the straight wing for a delta. Then the -5 comes along and swaps out the turbojets for turboprops. However, it's shown packing a bomb, so it's probably not an interceptor anymore...
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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 07:39:19 pm »
Those are cool, I've never seen any of those before. That last turbo-prop version is one of the oddest out crowths I've seen, considering it's source (The F-104).

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2006, 07:01:50 am »
That last turbo-prop version is one of the oddest out crowths I've seen, considering it's source (The F-104).

Wait till you see the swing-wing and three-engine/five-seater versions. Or the *really* big long range interceptor....
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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2006, 08:41:57 am »
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Second: CL-351-10 AKA F-104X, an F-104 with big inlets, a J-79 and the ability to get to Mach 3.2 at 69,000 feet.

Lockheed marketing has always been great, even on paper planes...   ;) ::)

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2006, 08:58:31 am »
First up: L-227-14, one of the designs leading to the F-104. Clearly not the direction Lockheed decided to take. (Note: on the original, the dimensions are illegible).
Thanks a lot for this twin-boom Starfighter, completing the German twin-fuselage double-Starfighter. Great ! ;D

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2007, 05:56:26 pm »
Lockheed CL-1010-2 Starfighter

Apparently this lost to the F-4E in the Japanese F-X competition. Anyone got details?
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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2007, 09:39:18 pm »
Nope. Got nuthin'.

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 03:37:13 am »

CL-901: air superiority version with J79-GE-J1F engine, increasing speed to Mach 2.2, new flap system.
CL-958: as above with larger wing for increased manouverability and takeoff/landing performance.

Source: Flying Review International, August 1965


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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2007, 10:33:14 am »
Hi,

a more information about CL-901,it was a multi-purpose version
of the F-104G and the basic modifications were carried out by
Lockheed at the request of the Italian Air Force on two F-104G
produced by Fiat.

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2007, 12:55:24 pm »

CL-901: air superiority version with J79-GE-J1F engine, increasing speed to Mach 2.2, new flap system.
CL-958: as above with larger wing for increased manouverability and takeoff/landing performance.
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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2007, 10:26:06 am »
By the way,

The CL-901 called F-104S.

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2007, 11:32:04 am »
Not exactly....

Lockheed F-104S , developed by Locheed as one of its CL-980 design studies.

S- for Sparrow.

source: Wings of Fame Vol.2. Aeospace Publishing Ltd-London 1996

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2007, 10:03:52 am »
My dear lark,

In the book of American fighter from 1917 to the present
and in that site;
http://www.vectorsite.net/avf104_2.html
they said the Lockheed CL-901 was F-104S.

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Re: F-104 Starfighter Projects
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2007, 02:12:47 pm »
The increase in performance of the F-104S (CL-980) impelled
Lockheed to offer the new design for wider sales as the CL-901...