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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 12:55:59 pm »
Dear Caravellarella, as i understand, you have an issue of the Le Fana de l'Aviation, No. 348; November 1998. Can you share here drawings of the beautiful SE-200 flying boat?

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2010, 02:22:39 pm »
i like flying boats !  :)
Those fying boats of Sud-Est was nice, but was clear that flying boats had lost more importance after WWII.
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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2010, 01:38:02 pm »
Dear Flyingfinn, do you want me to scan the drawings and post them here? In their entirety? They are spread over 4 consecutive issues of Fana de l'Aviation; moderators, is this allowed?

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2010, 04:21:36 pm »
Dear Flyingfinn, the SNCASE SE-200 flying-boat is actually a pre-war design; formerly the Lioré & Olivier LéO H-49 Amphtrite. Perhaps I should put the pictures there instead......

Terry (Caravellarella)
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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2010, 03:31:25 am »
Dear Terry (Caravellarella), i'll be waiting for your pictures in that branch of forum with impatience!
Thank you for your understanding!

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2010, 10:03:12 am »
Here we are




SE-014 derivative with a MTOW of 120 tons. Engines were HS 24Z or Gnome&Rhone 28T (those were coupled  HS 12Z and Gnome Rhone 14R ultimate french-piston engines of the 1940-1950 era)


My dear Archibald,

do you mean by SE-014 as SE-214?,that is because there was no series for SNCASE include
014 number !.

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2010, 03:25:34 pm »
Going waaay back to the S.E.1200, a sideview that appeared in Flight seems to show the turboprop version. In this version of the flying boat, the four tandem Arsenal 24Hs (boosted by R-R Nenes) were to be replaced with four AS Python turboprops. Flight 26 Feb 1948

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2010, 12:03:20 pm »
A good find, this side view. But I cannot see, why it's turbo prop powered, the nacelles
look as those of the piston engined version to me. And would such an important change 
have not resulted in another designation, eg. SE.1201 ?
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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2010, 10:52:43 pm »
Yes, the nacelles are rather generic-looking as depicted. I mentioned the Pythons because Flight's commentary suggested that the tandem Arsenal 24Hs had already been eclipsed by this time. Still, tough to tell a notional turboprop installation from well-faired liquid-cooled engines with turbojet boosters in such drawings  :)

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2011, 03:12:43 pm »
Dear Boys and Girls, here is an article in French about the SNCASE Sud-Est SE.1200 eight-engined flying boat "project" and announcing flight-tests of the scaled-down test-bed the SE.1210 which isn't a "project".

The 125 seater SNCASE Sud-Est SE.2010 "project" was comparable to the Saunders Roe Princess flying boat and would have been powered by eight Arsenal 24H 3,000hp liquid-cooled engines in tandem pairs driving contra-rotating propellors. It featured a laminar flow wing and provision was made in the design for a change to Armstrong Siddeley Python turboprop engines. Luckily for SNCASE, it remained a "project"......

It should be pointed out that by this time Air France was operating regular transatlantic services with Lockheed L049 Constellations......

The article comes from the 24th July 1948 issue of Les Ailes......

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2011, 12:13:57 am »
se 1210

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2011, 07:09:01 am »
Thanks for providing some information on this attractive project, Caravellarella.

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2011, 08:58:10 am »
Thanks for providing some information on this attractive project, Caravellarella.

Thank you Foiling. There is more information in this rather generic and disparate topic......

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,841.0/highlight,sud+est+flying.html

which has an odd mix of references to pre-war types and even has the SNCAC NC.211 Cormoran heavy lift transport landplane thrown in for good measure  ???

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2011, 11:58:48 am »
Thanks Caravellarella, I recall that page now. But thanks especially for your ever-interesting & informative contributions. You never cease to surprise & delight me.

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Re: SNCASE (Sud-Est) Postwar flying boat projects
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2014, 06:02:35 am »
And from AFM magazine,


the SNCASE SE.1200.