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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #210 on: May 16, 2018, 08:49:43 pm »
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/05/16/world/new-weapons-will-maintain-russias-might-decades-putin-says/#.Wvz6_n8h02w

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MOSCOW – Russia’s new weapons, including an array of new nuclear systems, will ensure the country’s security for decades to come, President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday at a meeting with top military brass.

Speaking in Sochi, Putin said the new systems unveiled this year will significantly increase Russia’s military capabilities and “ensure a strategic balance for decades.”
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #211 on: May 17, 2018, 05:10:19 am »
Capable of Carrying 2 Megatonne Nuclear Warhead

Source: Russian Poseidon Underwater Drone Capable of Carrying 2 Megatonne Nuclear Warhead

"MOSCOW --- Russia’s Poseidon underwater drone currently under development will be able to carry a nuclear warhead with a capacity of up to 2 megatonnes to destroy enemy naval bases, a source in the Russian defense sector told TASS on Thursday.

 "It will be possible to mount various nuclear charges on the ‘torpedo’ of the Poseidon multipurpose seaborne system, with the thermonuclear single warhead similar to the Avangard charge to have the maximum capacity of up to 2 megatonnes in TNT equivalent," the source said.

 With its nuclear munition, the underwater drone "is primarily designed to destroy reinforced naval bases of a potential enemy," the source said.

 Thanks to its nuclear powerplant, the Poseidon will approach the target for an intercontinental range at a depth of over 1 km and at a speed of 60-70 knots (110-130 km/h), the source said. "


http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/193274/russia%E2%80%99s-poseidon-underwater-drone-to-carry-nuke-warhead.html
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #212 on: May 17, 2018, 09:02:25 am »
https://www.rt.com/news/427014-russian-hypersonic-missile-intel/

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Russia’s state-of-the-art hypersonic glide vehicle, which analysts say is capable of easily cutting through the existing US missile shield, will become operational by 2020, reports citing US intelligence have warned.

Speaking to CNBC on the condition of anonymity, sources aware of US intelligence reports, said the Russian military successfully tested the weapon twice in 2016. The third known test of the weapon was allegedly carried out in October 2017, and allegedly failed when the device crashed seconds before hitting its target.

The sources believe the device would be a significant breakthrough which could enable Russian military to surpass US counterparts. The intelligence sources claimed that the hypersonic gliders will get onboard countermeasures to enable them to defeat even the most advanced missile-defense systems.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #213 on: May 17, 2018, 10:05:31 am »
Let's not forget the Kh-32 (of which the Backfire carries 3) is basically a hypersonic gliding weapon. With a 1,100lb warhead.  Mach 5, 1000km.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #214 on: May 19, 2018, 02:12:47 pm »
https://special-ops.org/news/terrorism/us-intelligence-indirectly-confirms-existence-russian-hypersonic-weapons/

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Citing one of the intelligence reports, a source said the hypersonic glider’s testing involved mounting it to an RS-18A intercontinental ballistic missile (NATO reporting name SS-19).

US intelligence says the vehicle is highly maneuverable, and thus unpredictable and hard to track. It is also fitted with onboard countermeasures which no existing US missile-defense system can defeat.  Furthermore, although it can carry a warhead, it is believed that the force of glider’s impact, as well as its precision, may be enough to waste targets.

The intelligence reports, allegedly created this past spring, calculate that the Avangard will likely achieve initial operational capacity by 2020, according to CNBC’s sources.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #215 on: June 01, 2018, 05:26:03 pm »
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/06/01/russia-has-plans-for-its-future-nuclear-subs-and-it-involves-hypersonic-missiles/

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MOSCOW ― Russia’s next generation of multipurpose nuclear submarines, reportedly known as the Husky class, will be armed with hypersonic missiles, with the lead boat slated for launch in 2027, according to an unidentified Russian defense industry official quoted by the TASS news agency on Thursday.

“Zircon hypersonic anti-ship missiles will become the main armament of the newest multipurpose submarine,” the source said, referring to a Russian sea-based hypersonic missile project intended to replace the P-700 Granit anti-ship missiles that are common among Russia’s heavier-hitting warships.

Little is known about the Husky-class submarines. They’re called fifth-generation multipurpose submarines in the Russian press and are being designed by the Malakhit design bureau in St. Petersburg, but there is not yet a finalized version of the boat’s design. According to TASS, the Husky class will feature a typical ― or rather typical for Russian subs ― dual-hull design, with a 12,000-ton displacement.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #216 on: July 01, 2018, 01:16:24 pm »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/putin-new-russian-weapons-decades-ahead-of-foreign-rivals/2018/06/28/7c67d4b0-7ad2-11e8-ac4e-421ef7165923_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.208d0774236b

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MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted about his country’s prospective nuclear weapons Thursday, saying they are years and even decades ahead of foreign designs.

Speaking before the graduates of Russian military academies, Putin said the new weapons represent a quantum leap in the nation’s military capability.

“A number of our weapons systems are years, and, perhaps, decades ahead of foreign analogues,” Putin told young military officers who gathered in an ornate Kremlin hall. “Modern weapons contribute to a multifold increase in the Russian military potential.”

The tough statement comes as Putin is preparing for a summit with U.S. President Donald Trump set for July 16 in Helsinki, Finland. Russia-U.S. relations have plunged to post-Cold War lows over the Ukrainian crisis, the war in Syria, the allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and differences over nuclear arms control issues.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #217 on: July 02, 2018, 05:53:36 pm »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/putin-new-russian-weapons-decades-ahead-of-foreign-rivals/2018/06/28/7c67d4b0-7ad2-11e8-ac4e-421ef7165923_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.208d0774236b

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MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted about his country’s prospective nuclear weapons Thursday, saying they are years and even decades ahead of foreign designs.

Speaking before the graduates of Russian military academies, Putin said the new weapons represent a quantum leap in the nation’s military capability.

“A number of our weapons systems are years, and, perhaps, decades ahead of foreign analogues,” Putin told young military officers who gathered in an ornate Kremlin hall. “Modern weapons contribute to a multifold increase in the Russian military potential.”

The tough statement comes as Putin is preparing for a summit with U.S. President Donald Trump set for July 16 in Helsinki, Finland. Russia-U.S. relations have plunged to post-Cold War lows over the Ukrainian crisis, the war in Syria, the allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and differences over nuclear arms control issues.

For the time being, yes, Russia has better ICBMs than the USA. But its useless weapon as it cannot be used... To use it, as everyone knows means "judgment day". And keep in mind my pump action shotgun I bought in 1975 will kill you just as well as a new semiautomatic.

Some of those "advanced" ICBMs were bought by Russia to counter SDI, hence we bankrupted them. They are still developing missiles to counter our ABM efforts... Hence, once again we forcing them to send money they barely have on weapons that will never be used.... The Russians did not learn the first time when The Great Ronald Reagan bankrupted them and they are not learning this time either.

Again, my old shotgun will kill just as well as a new semiautomatic.

As of today the usaf is in possession of a true first strike weapon that no one would see coming.... Just 10 b2s (imagine if we had at least 60 or 70) could deliver over a hundred nukes and decapitate Russia before they knew what happened. Once the raider comes.... Once the new cruise missile comes, then wow, what an incredible unseen first strike capability the US will have.

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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #218 on: July 03, 2018, 08:55:35 am »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/putin-new-russian-weapons-decades-ahead-of-foreign-rivals/2018/06/28/7c67d4b0-7ad2-11e8-ac4e-421ef7165923_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.208d0774236b

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MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted about his country’s prospective nuclear weapons Thursday, saying they are years and even decades ahead of foreign designs.

Speaking before the graduates of Russian military academies, Putin said the new weapons represent a quantum leap in the nation’s military capability.

“A number of our weapons systems are years, and, perhaps, decades ahead of foreign analogues,” Putin told young military officers who gathered in an ornate Kremlin hall. “Modern weapons contribute to a multifold increase in the Russian military potential.”

The tough statement comes as Putin is preparing for a summit with U.S. President Donald Trump set for July 16 in Helsinki, Finland. Russia-U.S. relations have plunged to post-Cold War lows over the Ukrainian crisis, the war in Syria, the allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and differences over nuclear arms control issues.

For the time being, yes, Russia has better ICBMs than the USA. But its useless weapon as it cannot be used...

If ICBMs couldn't be used, and were useless, nobody would have them.  Obviously that's not the case.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #219 on: July 05, 2018, 06:00:45 am »
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a22039073/russia-backfire-bomber-hypersonic-missiles/?src=socialflowTW

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Russia’s oldest bombers could become platforms for firing hypersonic missiles, allowing Moscow to strike targets from long range while slipping under anti-missile radars.

According to a report in Sputnik News, the Tu-22M3 Backfire could be modified to carry four Kh-47M2 “Kinzhal” air-launched ballistic missiles. Introduced in 1978, the Backfire is a large, swing-wing nuclear-capable supersonic bomber with a combat range of approximately 3,400 miles. Most of Russia’s Backfires are 30 years old or older and were recently refitted with the new SVP-24 Gefest digital sighting and navigation system.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #221 on: July 06, 2018, 01:24:56 am »
Some basic questions.

Does Russia have a case for it's weapon modernisation plans?   Is it allowed to feel threatened by an apparently aggressive America and Europe?

While I do not necessarily believe that the US and/or Europe have been overtly aggressive towards Russia, I do think Moscow has a right to feel threatened by the expansion of NATO and aggressive US policies in the Middle-East.  Any strategic decision is rarely made in a vacuum.  There are inputs which feed and fuel fears.   Just as Russia's decision to modernise feeds and fuels American alarmism, so do American policies fuel and feed Russian fears.   Perhaps instead of getting alarmed and fearing Russian modernisation, it might be better to talk to Putin and prove to him that America is no real threat to Russia?  Or is diplomacy dead?

Questions of morality and ethics appear to be ignored all too often in these sorts of discussions.   I wonder why?  I suppose it is just much easier to paint one side as the "good guys" and the other as the "baddies".

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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #222 on: July 06, 2018, 04:50:35 am »
Some basic questions.

Does Russia have a case for it's weapon modernisation plans?

It's conventional forces suck compared to the West.  Also big, powerful nuclear forces make it so you can get away with being belligerent on the world stage (see Crimea, Ukraine, the Arctic, etc.).  We've certainly never given them a reason to think we want to invade. We could literally walk into Canada, and all it's resources, if that's the kind of country we were.

Is it allowed to feel threatened by an apparently aggressive America and Europe?

Is the US allowed to feel threated by an ACTUALLY aggressive Russia and China? (After all, who's got new strategic nuclear weapons in production and who doesn't?)
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #223 on: July 07, 2018, 11:29:21 pm »
Some basic questions.

Does Russia have a case for it's weapon modernisation plans?

'It's conventional forces suck compared to the West.  Also big, powerful nuclear forces make it so you can get away with being belligerent on the world stage (see Crimea, Ukraine, the Arctic, etc.).  We've certainly never given them a reason to think we want to invade. We could literally walk into Canada, and all it's resources, if that's the kind of country we were.

I was not asking what sort of country you believe yourself to be but rather is Russia allowed to believe what it wants about it's
"opponents" and act on those fears?  After all, you are acting on your fears of Russia.   Does Russia have any "rights" in this debate or are tehy to be treated merely as a terrible bogeyman which can be invoked whenever someone in America desires?

Moscow believes it is acting to provide protection to it's people because it believes it's interests have been threatened by American policies.  I believe those fears are being manipulated by Putin but I am merely an interested observer looking on.   I believe you succumbing to Cold War "Fail Safe" styles of thinking about Russian intentions.   Surely the end of the Cold War and all the revelations that attended that indicated how short-sighted those thought processes were?

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Is it allowed to feel threatened by an apparently aggressive America and Europe?

Is the US allowed to feel threated by an ACTUALLY aggressive Russia and China? (After all, who's got new strategic nuclear weapons in production and who doesn't?)

Ah, but their aggression is defensive - according to them.  They are seeking to keep the US and it's lackeys at arm's length, further from their borders.  US aggression OTOH appears to be much more aggressive - it seeks "regime change" and control of resources, along with expansion of alliance boundaries.   It seeks control of regions traditionally controlled by Moscow/Beijing.    While in my view, most of that is poorly thought out, it does have a certain degree of sense behind it.   Whereas the American thinking doesn't.
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Re: Russian Strategic Weapon Modernization Plans
« Reply #224 on: July 08, 2018, 08:01:22 pm »
Some basic questions.

Does Russia have a case for it's weapon modernisation plans?

It's conventional forces suck compared to the West. 

That's unclear at this point. There was a recent RAND study* on this front that argued
that the Russians have, since 2008, largely closed the gap and enjoy some clear advantages
in long range fires, anti-tank munitions, IADS etc.

Quantitively it's near parity and in the Baltic it's not even close. Plus, the Russians have
been emphasizing multi-divisional level maneuver of combined arms heavy units in their
unannounced snap exercises.  In comparison, NATO has mostly been, for decades,
moving around smaller, lighter units in exercises.

And I find it very difficult to see, in light of this data, how NATO force levels, quality
and employment can or could have been construed as threatening.

* https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR2400/RR2402/RAND_RR2402.pdf