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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2009, 04:00:17 am »
That's a very cool kit of a totally ridiculous concept!  :D  Wicked!

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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2009, 07:40:45 am »
The fighter pilots would be "jailed" in their aircraft throughout the long endurance missions - unacceptable. Not to mention the large amounts of "wash" created by the hugh bomber during docking and undocking maneuvers...
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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 07:51:42 pm »
Was that a Convair design for sure, anyway? The box doesn't give any manufacturer's name. Has anyone got a Convair-originating sketch or three-view that would validate this allocation?


I figured I'd post this here to give some contrast with a pair of designs that have been attributed to Convair.

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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 01:05:39 am »
Thanks. Yeah, I know these, they're from the NX-2 nuclear bomber program. One of these was also credited as a Lockheed proposal in some sources, though I think both were indeed Convair variants of the same basic configuration.

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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2009, 07:40:10 pm »
This thread inspired me to build my old Hawk kit of the Beta-1 then use it to do this painting. That being the case, this thread seems to be the best place to show it.

I've reached a point on this one where I have to leave it alone for a while then see what still needs to be done. I figured I'd let everyone here take a look.

Note. I'm trying to make a better image of this (the blues are a bit too strong) and I'll replace this one when I do.

So now. Go at it. let me know what I've done wrong.

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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2009, 07:50:51 pm »

So now. Go at it. let me know what I've done wrong.

About the only thing I can see "wrong" is that the fighter pilots appear to be seated. Since I'm still working on the physical parts - doing the detailing by hand - I can assure you that no pilot larger than Minime could have sat in the thing. The pilots would have had to be prone.
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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2009, 08:07:05 pm »


About the only thing I can see "wrong" is that the fighter pilots appear to be seated. Since I'm still working on the physical parts - doing the detailing by hand - I can assure you that no pilot larger than Minime could have sat in the thing. The pilots would have had to be prone.

Thanks for that information. Maybe that explains the extra long canopy on the fighter. I thought the thing was a two-seater at first, but then I noticed only one ejection seat triangle in the decal instructions. To be honest, I didn't bother checking the scale since I'm convinced that it is a fictional design.

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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2009, 08:12:22 pm »
To be honest, I didn't bother checking the scale since I'm convinced that it is a fictional design.

I don't think a whole lot of thought went into the details when Hawk was designing this thing fifty years ago. Hell, I'm asonished that they even determined a scale for it (1/188). Typically "sized so it fits in a box" would be about as far as they'd go when it came to fictional designs.
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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2009, 08:42:46 am »
On a slightly related topic, does anyone remember the Aurora kits they put out in the 1970s of SF TV and movie spacecraft?  This included the Orion from 2001 and the Flying Sub, et al.  Anyway, one in the series was for a "fictional" USAF spacecraft called the Rajnorok.  It had a little parasite fighter that was docked out of the tail.

Over time, all I have left is the little fighter, shown here....
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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2009, 01:45:44 pm »

     Yeah, the Ragnorok Orbital Interceptor, IIRC. It had been the Russian Nuclear Powered Bomber, IIRC, in its previous life. I don't know if it had a fighter in that guise, tho.


On a slightly related topic, does anyone remember the Aurora kits they put out in the 1970s of SF TV and movie spacecraft?  This included the Orion from 2001 and the Flying Sub, et al.  Anyway, one in the series was for a "fictional" USAF spacecraft called the Rajnorok.  It had a little parasite fighter that was docked out of the tail.

Over time, all I have left is the little fighter, shown here....

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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2009, 04:19:45 pm »

     Yeah, the Ragnorok Orbital Interceptor, IIRC. It had been the Russian Nuclear Powered Bomber, IIRC, in its previous life. I don't know if it had a fighter in that guise, tho.


On a slightly related topic, does anyone remember the Aurora kits they put out in the 1970s of SF TV and movie spacecraft?  This included the Orion from 2001 and the Flying Sub, et al.  Anyway, one in the series was for a "fictional" USAF spacecraft called the Rajnorok.  It had a little parasite fighter that was docked out of the tail.

Over time, all I have left is the little fighter, shown here....

What did IIRC stand for?
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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2009, 04:24:12 pm »
Thanks to "frank"s remembering of the name, I found it.

Here it is in all her glory...

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/RAGNOROCK%20INTERCEPTOR%20PAGE.htm
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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2009, 04:32:42 pm »

     Yeah, the Ragnorok Orbital Interceptor, IIRC.

What did IIRC stand for?


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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2009, 04:59:02 pm »
Giggles....

I thought it was part of the designation......
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Re: Convair XAB-1 atomic powered bomber
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2009, 06:06:22 pm »

I still have one of each of all these boxed somewhere.

I really enjoyed building these things back then and got a real rush
about thinking about them and the technology they were based
on. It actually caused me to read up on this technology, so for me
it was very educational.

I wonder if the late John Andrews ever worked on the Hawk Atomic
Bomber, because I think he did a stint at Hawk.

He believed in designing models that were educational as well. I had
several discussions on this with him.

I recalled when he called me at Intel one day, in an official capacity
(for a change) and asked me about the feasibility of a model of a
microprocessor chip. We discussed it conceptually for some time.
Testors decided not to do anything with that, and I would not be the
proper one at Intel to finally approach on this, but that was the kind
of creative talent that he had.

As I read some AIAA papers on advanced aircraft concepts, I really
wish there was a modelling company that would take some of these
advanced designs and do something similar !

Can you imaging a model of Leik Myrabo's Mach 50 lightcraft, perhaps
with an associated model of the laser launcher, with suitable and
fascinating concept art. Explaining the whole concept, with suitable
additional references.

Or a model of say a very advanced detonation wave ramjet of the
future that would work beyond where scramjets can go.

Or an undersea aircraft carrier, like in G Harry Stine's "Starsea Invaders"
trilogy (I also enjoyed those books and they started me going too).

Anyway, great thought provoking and creative enjoyment!