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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2016, 10:00:49 pm »
We've discussed it before and now it comes to pass:

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Carter said the Pentagon's five-year budget plan also included $2.9 billion to modify Raytheon Co's new SM-6 missiles for use as powerful anti-ship weapons and buy 625 more of the weapons, which are now used for missile defense.

In fiscal 2017, the Navy would spend $587 million to buy 125 SM-6 missiles, according to a senior defense official.

Secret testing last month had proven the Navy's ability to use the new Raytheon missiles as offensive anti-ship weapons, Carter told sailors at the Navy's massive San Diego base.

Emphasis mine. Full article
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-budget-navy-idUSKCN0VC2LX
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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2016, 06:29:22 am »
https://news.vice.com/article/us-defense-secretary-announces-navy-can-blow-up-anything-it-wants-any-time-it-wants

Click bait title with similar info as Reuters story (probably where it came from) but included this interesting paragraph I haven't heard before:

The US has already run tests with the SM missile and the F-35 fighter-bomber, in which an SM missile has been fired from a ship but with no target identified. An F-35 in flight took control of the missile in midair, and then as the missile proceeded downrange, handed control of that missile to another F-35. Thus you could imagine a small, hardened launcher on an island popping up a missile and flinging it way into China, where it gets vectored on to target by a stealthy F-35.
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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2016, 07:47:33 am »
There is an ongoing plan to increase the 2nd stage (main missile) of the SM-3 to a 21" motor (SM-3 Blk II).



I found some test results on the new 21 motor

www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA320272

They also talked about making a surface strike version of the missile with a range of 550+ km.
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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2016, 07:57:27 am »
In fact they've flight tested it twice already.  The strike version (Arc Light) was killed sometime ago.  Considering the Block II is about $31 million I don't know how wise it would be to use it as a strike missile.

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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2016, 08:03:22 am »
Hey Spudman, why'd you change the slide?  I was interested in that 27-inch development. 

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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2016, 08:06:13 am »
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Hey Spudman, why'd you change the slide?  I was interested in that 27-inch development. 
I saw that too but I figured it was too big (the pic, not the missile).

I'll dig up some more info and post it again.
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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2016, 08:17:13 am »
Here is some more info on the 27" SM-3 BlkII

Basic Info
http://defense-update.com/20101118_aegis_sm3b2.html

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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2016, 08:25:19 am »
Don't recall if I've posted this before:

http://www.systima.com/prod/Space%20Systems.html

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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2016, 08:33:26 am »
Pretty sure you did post it somewhere, but not in this thread, so good to see it again.

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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2016, 08:51:46 am »
Pretty sure you did post it somewhere, but not in this thread, so good to see it again.

Probably in the LRASM-B or ASALM threads.
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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2016, 11:28:45 am »
Considering the Block II is about $31 million

But a quite a bit of that would be due to its mission needs. On the other hand, utilizing the front end of the SM6 and the larger stage would most likely not result in that big of a bump in cost. The SM6 is currently under $5 Million a round. It would be quite expensive to use an EKV equipped space interceptor for anti-ship purposes but I guess you could follow a growth strategy utilizing the larger stages and re-using SM6 parts for both better terminal intercept capability and longer ranged anti shipping roles. I'd put them on land as well without the other AEGIS BMD elements and develop a more Air defense oriented sensor with a smaller footprint.
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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2016, 01:12:56 pm »
Reposting the Figure from the SM-3 Block IIB trade study (by A.J. Pue et al.)


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Re: Standard Missile projects.
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2016, 01:24:23 pm »
Is the rest of the trade study publicly available?

edit:  http://techdigest.jhuapl.edu/TD/td3205/32_05-Pue.pdf
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« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2016, 02:49:24 pm »
Yep. Attaching a compressed version to stay within server file size limits.
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