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Offline Grey Havoc

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Re: Tu-144 Projects
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2018, 02:53:57 am »
A slightly controversial short video on the Tu-144 program and the background to it:

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Re: Tu-144 Projects
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2018, 06:33:18 am »
I recently got my hands on Yefim Gordon "soviet bombers" book. In the chapter over the M-18 / Tu-160 / T-4Ms he mention the fact that Tupolev desperately pushed for military Tu-144s and the Soviet generals said "Hell, no. We don't want any derivative of this tricky pony"
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Re: Tu-144 Projects
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2018, 12:23:58 pm »
1). Tupolev '160' 1970-1972
2). Northrop Grumman M2 FSA concept, 1999

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Re: Tu-144 Projects
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2018, 10:35:51 pm »
The weirdest part in the story is Tupolev cornering himself with "too much tu-144" and Myasischchev M-18 being the favorite design... and then they merged the two, Tupolev got its hands on the M-18 and reworked it into the Tu-160.
Sukhoi designs were pretty interesting too. But somebody had to build the Flanker...
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Re: Tu-144 Projects
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2018, 05:06:32 am »
Tupolev got its hands on the M-18 and reworked it into the Tu-160.
Sukhoi designs were pretty interesting too. But somebody had to build the Flanker...
Tupolev has declined MAP offer to pass T-4MS and M-18/20 documentation to his DB as it already has 160M alternate VG variant along with double delta.
So story about bad Tupolev stealing Myasicshev design is a little bit off the truth.
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Re: Tu-144 Projects
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2019, 06:02:53 am »
UAC and Tupolev have made some nifty video for Tu-144 maiden flight 50th anniversary

« Last Edit: February 06, 2019, 06:07:27 am by flateric »
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