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Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« on: April 26, 2009, 12:56:21 am »
Hi all,

Do somebody know this model... ??? ??
Have you got some infos about.. ??? please..???or blue print.. ???

gery
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 08:32:36 am by Stargazer2006 »

Offline Michel Van

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 09:34:36 am »
I never see somethink like that in Books about German Fighters

and were are the Fuel Tanks on the model ?
because Rocketengine are thirsty
this wingform that Fighter is not very aerodynamic

for me this is a Fake



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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 10:16:56 am »
hummmm..
i agree with you, it's not the usual design of brothers....the airfoil is not (not the standard horten airfoil )adapted and not efficient for this type of plane...
I think the pilote have not a good view point and this  position not correct (more in back), the body bulb is not in the good direction (inversed)...
Just a "creativ SF exercise"...??????

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 10:31:19 am »
That's from the Fantastic Plastic website.

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/HortenRocketWingPage.htm

"Produced in 1:72 for Fantastic Plastic Models by Anigrand Craftswork, this unusual rocket-powered flying wing model was based on original documentation provided by Michael Schratt, who also provided the data for our USAF 40-Foot Flying Disc. "

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 10:37:10 am »
Hello barry,

where can i find this documents...???You look to know more infos than me about this project....thank you

For me not a brothers design, and a curious aerodynamic concept....look at http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/Horten_Nurflugels/horten_nurflugels.html

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 11:04:10 am »
Horten ?
Is a Fake !

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 11:12:58 am »
There actually was a Horten design with parabolic wing, built in 1938 as a
glide, but never flown, because it was destroyed before the first flight.
(Photo from Waffenarsenal Bd.18 "Nurflügel").
But IMHO, what makes this rocketfighter quite unrealistic, is the position of
the rockets, liquid fuelled, as I would suggest. In reports about the Me 163
you can read, that those early rocket engines weren't very stable with regards
to the amount of thrust they delivered. And in this layout, even small differences
between the two engines would have led to some problems for the pilots, I think.
Horten designs usually were quite sound, but maybe at the ned of the war, even the
Hortens had to use alcohol s a "tranquilizer" ?   ;D
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 11:19:40 am »
jemiba,
the airfoil is realy a fantaisy...if you know a little horten concept..it' not possible ...

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 11:43:56 am »
Just two models...

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 12:14:58 pm »

Just a "creativ SF exercise"...??????


Some time back I saw the design - crude and simply drawn - in a post-war US military report on German aircraft design. I'll see if I can find it again.
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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 12:18:17 pm »
Why not ask Michael Schratt? Hasn't he already posted here?!

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5051.0/highlight,michael+schratt.html

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2009, 12:43:56 pm »
Here we go:


And the source document:
http://foia.abovetopsecret.com/ultimate_UFO/UFO_GOVT/ARMY/ArmyCICUFOFiles.pdf


And yes, it *does* come from Above Top Secret. Bear that in mind when contemplating how trustworthy it is. The relevant parts of this PDF file start about page 92, and seem to be from a January 1948 memo regarding UFOs and whether the Hortens had anything to do with them. The "design" seems to be based on a verbal description from an "informant." *Always* fully reliable and accurate.
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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2009, 01:00:33 pm »
look at the airfoil...it's inversed....it's a joke...?????and the proportions ....21 meters lenght...pilot have got a lenght of 5 meters (a quart of lenght)..it's an alien project..????? not serious
a brain washing....

just learn aerodynamic...for beginner.....inversed airfoil don't work...

http://www.geocities.com/galemcraig/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamics
http://www.winfoil.com/screenshots.htm
a good adress...
http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/index.htm ..look at flying wings...
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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 09:23:23 am »
i want to know more about this aircraft, presented as a Horten rocket powered flying wing.

on page 96
http://foia.abovetopsecret.com/ultimate_UFO/UFO_GOVT/ARMY/ArmyCICUFOFiles.pdf

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Re: Unconfirmed Horten rocket wing project
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2013, 12:41:02 am »
As Justo said - it´s a fake.