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Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« on: April 01, 2009, 04:08:25 am »
I stumbled across this history in English of Hanns Klemm, the man and his company, and thought others might be interested.  It includes a number of prototypes and one-off designs as well as referencing some unbuilt designs that I have never heard of before.

History of Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2009, 07:37:13 am »
Interesting point (thanks Mole fir the link): "During the war a very remarkable Klemm was built: two Klemm L 25痴 were fitted together as a testbed for the Messerschmitt Bf-109Z. This Bf-109Z was a twin-fuselage fighter (2 Bf 109痴 connected). The idea is basically the same as the Twin Mustang. The Bf-109Z has never been built, and it is not known if this is due to the Klemm testbed."
Without the well known picture though, and without more info (connected tails? 3-view?)

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2009, 12:08:33 pm »
From E.Peter "Der Flugzeugschlepp von den Anf舅gen bis heute" (Aircraft towing, from the
beginnings until today), a photo of the mentioned Mistel combination, made up of a DFS 230
assault glider and a Klemm Kl 35:
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 07:12:54 am »
From Jet & Prop 2/1999,


here is the Klemm Kl 25 with two personal pods,to carry the special agents to
enemy land secretly.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 01:15:36 pm »
From what I know and read, the Kl 25 was never meant to be used on such
missions, but just as a testbed for the use of such pods, that actually would
have been used on the Ju 87, or maybe on other types, too, although I haven't
heard of them.
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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2018, 04:28:58 am »
From Le Fana,

 a strange patent to Klemm.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 01:11:09 pm »
From what I know and read, the Kl 25 was never meant to be used on such
missions, but just as a testbed for the use of such pods, that actually would
have been used on the Ju 87, or maybe on other types, too, although I haven't
heard of them.

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Similar passenger pods were mocked-up on a Junkers 87 Stuka. Not sure if the Stuka flew with passenger pods.

The concept was revived for Av8 Harrier, but they looked more like fuel drop -tanks modified with plexiglas noses. They hung under the wing like regular drop tanks. Some one built mock-ups of Harrier passenger pods and displayed them at a trade show, but we never heard about them in service.
....... mind you, the sort of sneaky-peaky, special forces, covert, stealthy guys that are most likely to use those pods are quiet professionals who are the least likely to brag about them.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2018, 12:17:26 am »
Yes, we had both here : https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1476.0.html

In the case of the Ju 87, I cannot think of its use for covert operations, la those, with the
Westland Lysander, as the Stuka wasn't really an STOL aircraft. May have been rather intended
as a light transport, I think.
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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2018, 12:43:26 am »
A people pod under a Harrier could have been useful to recover a downed pilot on land, if you have no helo around. Response time would actually be better than the helo.

Could serve also for casevac. The Stuka pods could do casevac too.
Of course it is better if you have the right purpose-built aircraft for it, but when you don't...

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2018, 08:22:01 am »
The link in my original post in this thread is now dead, but the story of Hans Klemm and Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau is now available here (in German with integrated Google translate):  https://hannsklemm.wordpress.com/
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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2018, 08:49:36 am »
Amazing my dear Cluttenfred,

and here is an unknown Project.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2018, 09:22:54 am »
Amazing my dear Cluttenfred,

and here is an unknown Project.

And maybe it was E37 ?.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2018, 01:25:16 pm »
Amazing my dear Cluttenfred,

and here is an unknown Project.

And maybe it was E37 ?.
It looks a bit like the Kl107, actually.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2018, 02:14:50 pm »
Why E.37?
I see you on the dark side of the moon.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2018, 04:34:50 am »
The pictures show , so far I remember (I am not at home now) a mockup of the Kl 105 ...

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2018, 06:32:04 am »
The pictures show , so far I remember (I am not at home now) a mockup of the Kl 105 ...

I guess not my dear Richard.

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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2018, 07:58:33 am »
Your picture shows the Kl 105 V4

Here , the Kl 105 V1 D-EPQH with Zndapp engine :



Looking at the front fuselage , my memories could be right , but I am not sure 100% : I will check when at home , at the end of next month ...


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Re: Klemm Leichtflugzeugbau
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2018, 08:15:25 am »
OK my dear Richard.