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Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« on: February 11, 2009, 11:48:42 pm »
Is the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) dead after Lockheed-Martin's USS Freedom (LCS-1) and General Dynamics/Austal USS Independence (LCS-2). The last I heard the US Navy was going to re-open bidding. Has the Navy decided to not resurrect this program or has it just not gotten around to sending its bid requests?

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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 12:43:58 am »
That doesn't make a lot of sense (but then again rarely anything in politics does anymore) the whole point of having LockMart and NG two their separate ship designs on their own would be so that the Navy gets to try out each ship design on their own, and then start the bidding process.
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 09:48:11 am »
That doesn't make a lot of sense (but then again rarely anything in politics does anymore) the whole point of having LockMart and NG two their separate ship designs on their own would be so that the Navy gets to try out each ship design on their own, and then start the bidding process.

The last I read, the plan was that the winning bidder would make two ships while the loser would make only one of the next three units. General Dynamics Bath Iron Works/Austal, not Northrop Grumman, and the Lockheed Martin ships designs are so different, who dreamed up this idea and for what reasons?
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 08:04:55 pm »
Fast ship...

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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 06:58:33 am »
Back in 2007, these were some of the the main robotic systems (not entirely accurately referred to as USVs) that the Navy was planning to use.

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The Navy wants to develop four main classes of USVs.  Three of them would be armed.

The three-meter long "X-Class" machines would be for "low-end" snooping and reconnaissance; like a robotic jet ski, with a camera attached. 

The "Harbor Class" would be based on the Navy’s seven meter long rigid-hulled inflatable boats, or RIBs.  These unmanned Zodiacs would be used for dropping mine countermeasures, and fending off boat-borne bad guys with a mix of "lethal and non-lethal armament."
 
The "Snorkeler Class" is a stealthy, seven-meter submersible that would stay in the water for up to a day at a time, tow ing mine- and sub-finding-gear — and maybe even carrying a torpedo or two. 

Lastly, there’s the "Fleet Class," capable of staying in the water for 48 hours straight, and reaching speeds of up to 35 knots.  The eleven-meter long USV would be used to do everything from carrying commandos to shore, jamming enemy communications, neutralizing mines, and delivering a "Harbor Class" drone.  Naturally, it would carry its own guns and torpedoes, too, so it could conduct ‘high end’ surface warfare missions."

The original USN 'USV Master Plan': http://www.navy.mil/navydata/technology/usvmppr.pdf

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The “Harbor Class” is based on the Navy Standard 7m RIB and is focused on the
MS Mission, with a robust ISR capability and a mix of lethal and non-lethal
armament. The “Harbor Class” USV can be supported by the majority of our
Fleet, since it will use the standard 7m interfaces.
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 07:01:21 am »
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 11:19:58 am »
A little more info on some of the USN/Industry development efforts regarding robotic systems: http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/blog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=713
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2012, 03:38:16 pm »
Via Maritime Memos:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-22/fastship-live-nation-google-vw-ca-intellectual-property

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The closely held company plans to use bankruptcy to create a trust that would pursue a patent-infringement lawsuit against the U.S. government and repay creditors with any proceeds, Bullard said. A new $650 million U.S. Navy combat ship relies on designs owned by FastShip, Bullard said.

“The debtors believe a strong claim exists against the U.S. government for patent infringement,” the company said in court papers.


EDIT: FastShip dry docks in Ch. 11 (The Deal Pipeline)

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FastShip believes the U.S. Navy violated its patents by building $650 million worth of high-speed combat vessels at the same time the debtor's business plan was failing. FastShip said it attempted to reach a settlement with the Navy when it filed an administrative claim against it in April 2008. Two years later, the Navy summarily denied FastShip's claim.



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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2012, 12:36:57 pm »

Lockheed Martin' Surface Combat Ship, export variant of the Freedom class LCS, equipped on this scale model with AEGIS, MK41 VLS, Oto Melara 76mm and Millenium 35mm guns.

Link to LMACS (Lockheed Martin Agile Management System] entry over on navyrecognition.com (part of their DIMDEX 2012 coverage).
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 11:34:40 am »

Lockheed Martin' Surface Combat Ship, export variant of the Freedom class LCS, equipped on this scale model with AEGIS, MK41 VLS, Oto Melara 76mm and Millenium 35mm guns.

Link to LMACS (Lockheed Martin Agile Management System] entry over on navyrecognition.com (part of their DIMDEX 2012 coverage).

The model is of the LCS-I configuration that was offered to Israel.


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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 08:38:49 am »
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2012, 11:02:11 am »
From Maritime Memos:

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More on Austal USA

The word from my man on the ASX, (the Australian Securities Exchange), is that Austal's bankers are all in a tizzy about the huge sums of money that Austal USA is losing on the LCS and JHSV programs, at a time when their Australian yards are not generating enough to make up for it.  So, step up and move in, please, General Dynamics.  June 27, 2012.

 
News from Austal USA

Austal USA's President, Joe Rella, has indeed resigned and Austal says that he has been replaced, on an interim basis, by Brian Leathers, the company's CFO.  In addition, Craig Perciavalle has been promoted to Senior VP, Shipyard Operations.  Read the announcement here.  This change is described by Austal as "a natural step". I don't see what's natural about it, but who knows?  I don't think this saga is over yet.  June 26, 2012.

 
GD Taking Over Austal USA?

Upheaval in Mobile this week, with the resignation of Austal USA's President, Joe Rella, and the presence of Austal Chairman and Founder John Rothwell, accompanied by several members of the company's Board of Directors.  The hot rumor is that a majority interest in the yard is being sold to GD, with ex-BIW President Dugan Shipway coming in as interim President.  Probably not a bad idea, depending on how the company is restructured.  Lots more to come on this topic, no doubt.  Never a dull moment!  June 26, 2012.
 
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Re: Littoral Combat Ship - Freedom/Independence
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 03:09:46 am »
From the same source:

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Jamming Them In

Oh my, here's yet another fiasco involving the LCSs.  Defense News reports that the Freedom-class boats are to have 20 additional berths installed to allow for an increase in the size of the core crew from 40 to 60.  Read the story here.  Note that these boats are already deficient in berth space, with extra berths being provided in containers located in space currently designated for mission modules.  Great planning, guys!  July 2, 2012.
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