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Re: 3-jet light twin-fuselage bomber design by Ernie Heim
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 04:02:17 pm »
An example of "context" is the hurry with which Sydney Camm had to design the wing of the Hawker Typhoon.
It was a bad design that was paid with the life of 28 pilots.

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Re: 3-jet light twin-fuselage bomber design by Ernie Heim
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 04:34:01 pm »
Context is terribly important.
And context can be *excruciatingly* difficult to devine from a drawing, particularly as viewed from this end of the wayback machine.

Sure. But from this far removed, a few details can pop out about some particular "magazine design:"
1) "Designed by who? Never heard of him."
2) "Looks unlikely."
3) "Nothing like that ever got built."
4) "No manufacturer seems to have expressed an interest."

Put those together...
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Re: 3-jet light twin-fuselage bomber design by Ernie Heim
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 05:18:15 pm »
Oh, I agree for the "reader submission" in a magazine. 

My comment was meant more in the context of evaluating the umpteenth variation drawing (or piece of art) of, say, a Boeing  xxx-yyy number, without knowing if it was for a NASA study, AFRL, IRAD, or even the art department.

By the way, three of your criteria are met by Armand Thieblot.

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Re: 3-jet light twin-fuselage bomber design by Ernie Heim
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 05:54:36 pm »
Oh, I agree for the "reader submission" in a magazine. 

My comment was meant more in the context of evaluating the umpteenth variation drawing (or piece of art) of, say, a Boeing  xxx-yyy number, without knowing if it was for a NASA study, AFRL, IRAD, or even the art department.


Yes, but let's face it... 4) "No manufacturer seems to have expressed an interest" is the real test. No matter how nutty, impossible, ill-conceived or even just plain stupid a design might be, if it was done by Boeing employees on Boeing time, it's suddenly interesting.
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Re: 3-jet light twin-fuselage bomber design by Ernie Heim
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2009, 02:38:41 am »
"if it was done by Boeing employees on Boeing time, it's suddenly interesting."

Right, because, I think, if Boeing tasks a designer and pays him for his work, Boeing will
have some kind of interest in the result.

If you replace "Boeing" by "Junkers" or "Focke-Wulf" (or maybe even "Sukhoi" or "Mikoyan" ?),
I think, matters may be sometimes a little bit different. During times, when the aim was just
to keep the design team complete and intact (alive !), there may have been designs by a
real Junkers designer, using Junkers paper and with Junkers pencils for drawing a design ... his
company never had the slightest ambition to even consider it ! 

But generally "No manufacturer seems to have expressed an interest" should be a good point,
I think. Amateurs mostly aren't just the inventor or designer, but double as "manufacturer ",
so they are "in",exceptions from that rule perhaps could be design Bureaus/thinktanks like
Bauhaus Luftfahrt e.v. (http://www.bauhaus-luftfahrt.net/) or even Avpro ?
But probably not Monsieur Luigi Colani !  ;D
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Re: 3-jet light twin-fuselage bomber design by Ernie Heim
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2009, 06:05:34 pm »
It certainly seems to show some influence from wartime German designs like the Heinkel and even French designs like those of Fauvel, but from the caption it appears to be an original sketch by a reader from Michigan.

Indeed, each month (dating from the very late 1940s or very early 1950s, Air Trails magazine had a contest whereby readers were invited to submit designs for cash prizes. Three were chosen each month. This appears to be one of those designs.

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