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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #90 on: December 04, 2013, 05:34:11 am »
If I had Bill Gates's money I would pay for the restoration of both the HO-229 and J7W1 Shinden. Then I would take them to Germany and Japan for a few months to display them before returning them to the US. Someday when both of these are restored I will visit the Air & Space museum again. If the Kikka is also on display that will be a great bonus!
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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #91 on: December 04, 2013, 10:18:20 am »
I wonder if it has to do with NASM's very exacting specifications when it comes to restoration.  I was volunteering at the kalamazoo Air Zoo when they got the XP-55 and the standards and expectations were extremely exacting including little things like only handling internal structural pieces is such a way that the pencil scrawled notations from the 1940's engineers did not get smudged where they remained.  With an aircraft of this history there might be a lot of people who want to do it but probably vanishingly few who would be trusted not to damage it or harm it. 

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #92 on: December 04, 2013, 02:57:59 pm »
If I had Bill Gates's money I would pay for the restoration of both the HO-229 and J7W1 Shinden. Then I would take them to Germany and Japan for a few months to display them before returning them to the US. Someday when both of these are restored I will visit the Air & Space museum again. If the Kikka is also on display that will be a great bonus!
Yes we hope Shinden restration any way.

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2015, 02:25:25 am »
Hi! Kikka and Renzan.

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #94 on: October 18, 2017, 08:55:40 am »
From Messerschmitt Me.262,Warbird Rech,

here is a comparison between Kikka and Karyu.

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #95 on: November 27, 2017, 07:13:06 am »
The sole imperative of a government, once instituted, is to survive.

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #96 on: November 27, 2017, 02:04:04 pm »
Excellent find!!! Thanks a lot. :D

"Parts that experts concluded to be of the jet engine Ne-230 that was developed by the Imperial Japanese Army for the prototype of the Karyu jet fighter found in the premises of International Christian University(ICU, not Tokyo university) in Mitaka, western Tokyo."

There was Nakajima aircraft research institute(Fugaku engine development,etc) in the premises of ICU.
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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #97 on: November 28, 2017, 01:31:03 am »
No problem.
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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #99 on: August 17, 2018, 01:35:12 pm »
Unless things have changed, the US NASM policy and resulting execution in restoring aircraft has been somewhat more demanding and complex than many other museums.  Displaying the aircraft is somewhat secondary to making certain that the aircraft is returned to the condition of when it was built as an icon or perhaps a better term might be a "time capsule" of the technology incorporated in that aircraft. The restored aircraft in essentially all respects could be flown and all systems, materials and components, as much as possible are functional duplicates of the original.  Insuring that concept is expensive and perhaps difficult to monitor in a remote location.  The Do 335 situation was perhaps unique in some respects relative to it's restoration.

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2018, 04:42:46 am »

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2018, 09:06:09 am »
nice cover from the new aero journal:

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #102 on: August 24, 2018, 01:32:08 am »
Did someone has a original drawing of the weapon arrangement on the fighters variant?
thank!

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Re: Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu and "J9N/J9Y" Kikka
« Reply #103 on: August 25, 2018, 12:54:11 pm »
what's that under the wing?

http://homesonthenet.info/asninfo-nakajima-j9n1-k-kikka.html
I visited Silver Hill some year back. As far as I can recall, the thing with the small opening at the front is a faked up engine nacelle that someone added to the airframe at some point after the originals were lost and before it came into the Smithsonian's collection.