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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2009, 10:20:30 am »
...and the designations of the other versions of the F.111???
(RF.111A; RF.111D; F.111A to K; FB.111A and H; EF.111B)

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2009, 12:35:37 pm »
...and the designations of the other versions of the F.111???
(RF.111A; RF.111D; F.111A to K; FB.111A and H; EF.111B)

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These would be General Dynamics designations, not Grumman. Unfortunately these are not publicly known as far as I know. To me the F-111 is the GD-12, period. The GD designation system is pretty obscure to me, anyway, with two-digit numbers (GD-12, GD-14, Model 21, Model 44), three-digit numbers (Model 100, R-104, Models 201, 204, E-205, M-210, 218, Models 401 and 402) and four-digit numbers (Models 1600, 1601, 1602, 1700) not to mention odd designations like VX-11... I hope someone will eventually shed some light on that question since GD is now defunct and a part of Lockheed.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2010, 11:33:05 pm »
   Hi All!

 G-344---Lunar Logistics System.
 G-516---Naval Tactical Attack Aircraft.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2010, 12:36:45 am »
Thanks nugo! Any dates?

Recently found a "Model 413 Lunar Landing Vehicle" and wondered if this could be the Grumman LEM...

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2010, 12:45:04 am »
   Hi All!

 G-344---Lunar Logistics System.
 G-516---Naval Tactical Attack Aircraft.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2010, 10:45:38 pm »
  Hi Friends!

 I like to explore and compare different sources and  that I found, is "Grumman Aerospace Corp., Grumman Design 698, PDR No. 698-5, January 1978."---PDR No.698 aka Design(Model) 698, ""Future Naval Tactical Attack Aircraft (post) 1985" Grumman Aerospace Corporation, Report PDR-516-1, Vol.2, June 1971"---PDR-516---aka Design(Model) 516, Grumman Design 378B, Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation, ASR 378B, December 1965---ASR 378B aka Design(Model) 378B and etc.

And so, PDR and ASR---aka Design (Model), and so you can find in various sources project designation.

 Source: http://books.google.com

and more:

 Design 279---Apollo proposal.
 Design 636---NASA/HiMAT proposal.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2010, 02:20:22 am »
I tend to do pretty much the same as you. What is G-378B, anyway?

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2010, 09:05:00 am »
Hi,

G-159 & G-164  well known aircraft
G-191  Albatross for Germany
G-211  UF-2
G-231  Albatross for Canada
G-234  UF-2G
G-262  UF-2S
G-251  Albatross for Norway
G-270  UF-2G
G-288  UF-2G
G-300  fighter
G-305  four engined flying boat,developed from Albatross
G-310  fighter
G-315  Albatross for Chile
G-333       ,,       ,,  Argentina
G-340       ,,       ,,    ,,
G-341       ,,       ,,  Peru
G-342       ,,       ,,  Spain
G-426  TC-4 transport
G-431  recce
G-550  orbiter (not sure)
G-518  orbiter
G-607  fighter
G-619  orbiter
G-623  V/STOL fighter
G-698  well known
G-712  X-29
G-754  UAV
G-755  FAAV
G-870  VTOL fighter

The source for many projects is;
http://www.uswarplanes.net/sa16.html

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2010, 11:25:20 am »
I have one conflicting number: the UF-2 version for Norway was G-244, not G-251.
G-251 was an ASW version of Canada's CSR-110 (G-231), which also entered service with USCG as SHU-16B.

Missing (or incomplete) from your list:

G-215    ASW version of UF-2 Albatross for Greece
G-226    version of SA-16B Albatross for Mercury capsule retrieval
G-231    CSR-110 Albatross SAR version for Canada, also used as ASW aircraft for USCG
G-235    Gadfly tilt-wing VTOL aircraft project for U.S. Army (2- or 4-engined)
G-244    projected export version of UF-2 Albatross for Norway (see above)
G-273    TFX project
G-279    Apollo proposal
G-283    SOR-/GOR-183 proposal
G-303    series of TFX / VF(A)X Navy Fighter/Attack projects >> F-14 Tomcat
G-305    proposed 4-engined turboprop ASW flying-boat (1961), apparently developed from G-132
G-344    Lunar Logistics System
G-399    F-15 contender
G-426    TC-4C Academe (U.S. Navy)
G-429    KA-6D Intruder
G-431    RF-111B projected reconnaissance version
G-467    A-6C Intruder (TRIM version)
G-484    JTDS project
G-516    Naval Tactical Attack Aircraft
G-518    early orbiter project ("H-33")
G-532    early orbiter project
G-607/A V/STOL SCS fighter project with JTF22A-30B lift/cruise turbofan (1971)
G-623    Remote Augmented Lift System (RALS) V/STOL fighter project
G-636    NASA/HiMAT proposal
G-680F  slightly modified F-14A
G-680P  EA-6B Prowler (ICAP-2)
G-704B  OV-1D Mohawk (PAVE MOVER)
G-728    OV-1D developments
G-744    A-6F Intruder II
G-755    Future Attack Air Vehicle (FAAV)

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2010, 10:32:26 pm »
  Hi My Friends!

 G-132---4 x P&W R-2800-49, Open Ocean Seaplane , competitor of GD/Convair P6Y and Martin Model  313 "P7M".
 G-165---re-engined Traker, 2 x Lycoming T53, proposal.
 G-142---COD Transport, version of Trader, proposal .
 G-143---Bushfire, BDM for Martin XP6M-2, proposal.
 G-296B---Manned Lunar Roving Vehicle proposal.
 G-300---FX proposal.
 G-310---F-111B.
 G-356A---Space Station study.
 G-359---GV-1, space vuhicle, proposal.
 G-378B---Apollo LM.
 G-486C---STOL transport, 90 seat, proposal.
 G-487C---version of  Shine Meiwa, proposal.
 G-612(G-159N)---QUESTOL proposal.
 G-674---Nuttraker, proposal.
 G-711---2 x Turboprop engine, type as the G-111, proposal.
 G-730---VTX-TS , Grumman-Beech proposal.
 

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2010, 06:03:15 am »
Hi Nugo! Thanks for replacing the "no details" of my list with substantial descriptions!

I still have a G-137 that is undocumented. Any idea?

Also, isn't the spelling wrong on G-674? There was a Nutcracker, NOT a Nuttraker! A fuselage folding in flight is wacky enough, but I can't even begin to imagine a radome-carrying aircraft folding in two in flight! LOL

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2010, 06:52:01 am »
   Hi All!

Nuttraker---mistake, yes correct---Nutcracker (G-674).

G-613---Lightweight fighter, single seat and single engined aircraft, canard-type, proposal.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2010, 08:16:02 am »
Grumman Aircraft Data From 1930; Grumman Historical Office, June 1993 which I found at NNHC gives the F-111B as G-273.
 

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2010, 08:31:25 am »
I have the G-273 and the G-310 both as "TFX projects". I figure your source is reliable enough (!) and so G-273 it must be. Besides, the G-310 is posterior to the F-14 Tomcat (G-303) which indicates it was probably a spin-off of the F-111 but not the original program.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2010, 08:37:34 am »
Actually, Grumman Aircraft Data From 1930 -- by the Grumman Historical Office, June 1993 which I found at the NHHC files has totally different lists.

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FOREWORD

In 1967 Grant Daly published a compendium of Grumman aircraft statistics entitled Grumman Airplane Data (1930-1967). It contained a wealth of information and was a monumental task -- particularly working without the aid of a computer.

During the past 25 years various attempts have been made to bring the work up-to-date and to correct several errors in the original copy. That it is only now being republished will be some indication of the scope of the task.

The final rework and painstaking wrap-up of the document must be credited to Roger Seybel. Roger spent countless hours, mostly as a volunteer to the Grumman History Center, writing and verifying information with original sources. Without his persistence, you would probably not be reading this today.

Credit must be given to many - but, especially, former Grumman historians Andre Hubbard and Herman "Schoney" Schonenberg for their diligence in saving corrections to the original copy. William Barto and Peter Kirkup, assistant historians, also contributed significantly. Input was also provided by Joseph LeStrange, Joseph Lippert, Lynn McDonald, William Scarborough, Dave Seeman and Salvatore Vitale.

We know that someone will find an error in this copy. If so, please report same to the Grumman History Center at 516-575-2401. The material is now in a word processor; errors can be easily corrected in future editions.

Lois Lovisolo Grumman Historian

Revised July 1993