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Grumman project list
« on: August 10, 2006, 01:22:38 pm »
Hoping to stir upr some discussions (and undigging of half-forgotten infos) I post the Grumman projects list found in the Francillon's book (Putnam-Naval Insitute) on Grumman Corporation. As it's very well explained in the opening remarks, it is complete till G-128 and after veeeeery sketchy (to say the best). Anyhow, till G-128 it is fairly complete (this means circa 1956-57). Enjoy.
Uh, there is an obviuos error: G-118 and G-119 have been switched. G-118 is really the XF12F.
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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2006, 01:54:25 pm »
As a gracious addition, this is the list of the G-98 projects (F11F) to give an idea of the Grumman nomenclature. Read the notes, there i a surprise (hydro-Tiger...)

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2006, 02:03:03 pm »
I stir a dscussion myself (hopefully). Look at those two model numbers, G-107 and G-109. USAF interceptor and high-altitude WS, 1955-1956 timeframe... And the 109 includes the Eagles too.. Sound familiar? Other competitors in the phantom competition for the long-range interceptor? 

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2006, 02:27:16 pm »
G-109 has to be an alternative to the Douglas F6D Missileer, I'd think, from the description.
Grumman's G-118 (XF12F) is the Phantom II rival, no?

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2006, 02:57:10 pm »
G-118, yes. G-108, probably, but a little bit early (1956?). And G-107? ??? Not to mention G-119.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2006, 02:24:38 am »
   Hi Skybolt.
 
 Many thanks for the information.

   And so, Grumman did not participate in competition with Douglas Model D-6?? (XA4D-1).

 If there are in it to the book(Grumman Aircraft Since 1929)  more detailed of information on projects Model G-86 and G-92   if it is possible tell to us(3-view drawings, figures and specifications )

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2006, 06:58:53 am »
Uh, no and no... I'll search in the individual plane histories but I doubt it. The VTO could be related to the same competition of the Pogo.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006, 02:37:52 am »
   Hi Skybolt.
 
  I in one read, that:
 G-94----------XWF-1

  and in book Grumman Aircraft Since 1929 it is written so:
 G-94-----------Flex-deck F9F-7
 G-95-----------XWF-1
 
 If is in the book " Grumman Aircraft Since 1929 " about projects Model G-25, G-57, G-107 and G-124(figures,3-view drawings & specifications) show us if it is possible.

 
 
 

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2006, 07:30:31 am »
Nothing, again...  :(
As for the G-94, etc, probably in my list there is a switch of numbers, as there surely is one between G-118 and G-119.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2009, 11:53:08 am »
Looking for a drawing of the single J75-powered Design 118A for my F8U-3 monograph, I wrote the Grumman archives asking for information about the Design 119, listed in Francillon's book as the "XF12F design studies", whereas the 118 is listed as "Mach 2-plus fighter study", thinking that the 119 might have originally been the designation for the single-engine version. (Note that the 118 was not the XF12F as I've discussed elsewhere.) It turns out that Skybolt is almost certainly correct about Francillon switching the designations. Although it looks like a design suitable only for a Saturday morning kiddy cartoon, I can assure you that it is straight from the Grumman archives. I've included the notation on the drawing - the reversed writing is "Design 119" and "Three View". Note that this might be one of several sketches like the Design 110 series that I've described elsewhere.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2009, 04:57:13 am »
... (and undigging of half-forgotten infos) ...
I noticed that many people still don't realize the G-16 was Wildcat prototype in biplane configuration.
That's why the monoplane prototypes versions were designated G-18
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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2009, 08:40:01 pm »
Here's some Grumman design/G-numbers, 58A thru 105. Does anyone have info for the numbers listed without data?

58A, G-58A Gulfhawk IV (F8F-2 Bearcat)
58A, G-58A Red Ship
59, no data
60, no data
61, no data
62, no data
63, G-63 Hepcat Kitten I
63A, G-63A Kitten I
64, XJR2F-1 Albatross
64, SA-16A (HU-16A) (LU-16C) Albatross
64, UF-1 (HU-16C) Albatross
64, UF-1G (HU-16C) Albatross
64, UF-1T (TU-16C)
65, G-65 Tadpole
66, no data
67, no data
68, no data
69, no data
70, XTB3F-1
70, XTB3F-1S “Fertile Myrtle,”
70, XTB3F-2S
71, proposed single seat single engine carrier-based Westinghouse J34 (Model 24C) turbojet powered day fighter; pre-design number 79 – not proceeded with
72, G-72 Kitten
73, G-73 Mallard
74, G-44A Widgeon
75, XF9F-1 tandem two seat carrier based night fighter powered by four General Electric J47 turbojet engines; not proceeded with
76, no data
77, no data
78, no data
79, XF9F-2 Panther
79, XF9F-3 Panther
79, F9F-2 Panther
79, F9F-2D Panther
79, F9F-2P Panther
79, F9F-3 Panther
79, F9F-4 Panther
79, F9F-5 (DF-9E) Panther
79, F9F-5P Panther
80, no data
81, no data
82, AF-2S Guardian
82, AF-2W Guardian
82, AF-3S Guardian
83, XF10F-1 Jaguar
84, no data
85, no data
86, no data
87, no data
88, no data
89, XS2F-1 Tracker
89, S2F-1 (S-2A, YS-2A, TS-2A, S-2B) Tracker
89, S2F-2 (S-2C) Tracker
90, no data
91, no data
92, no data
93, F9F-6 (F-9E, DF-9E, QF-9F, QF-9G) Cougar
93, F9F-6P Cougar
93, F9F-7 (F-9H) Cougar
94A, F9F-7 Cougar
95, no data
96, TF-1 (C-1A) Trader
97, no data
98, F11F-1 Tiger (first three designated F9F-9)
98, F11F-1 (YF-11A, F-11A) Tiger
98J, F11F-1F Super Tiger
99, F9F-8 (F-9J) Cougar
99, F9F-8B (YAF-9J, AF-9J) Cougar
99, F9F-8P (RF-9J) Cougar
100, no data
101, no data
102, no data
103, no data
104, no data
105, F9F-8T (TF-9J, YTF-9J) Cougar


More to follow....
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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2009, 01:52:11 pm »
Does anyone know the G-numbers for the F-111B and X-29A? I don't think Grumman had to use GD's Model 12 number for its F-111B...
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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2009, 02:07:23 pm »
Does anyone know the G-numbers for the F-111B and X-29A? I don't think Grumman had to use GD's Model 12 number for its F-111B...

Grumman's G-310 is given as the TFX/F-111.
The projected RF-111B reconnaissance version was the G-431.
The X-29A was the G-712.

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Re: Grumman project list
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2009, 02:17:55 pm »
Right on...
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